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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptySun Feb 23, 2020 7:44 pm

Facebook post.. False 😀😀😀

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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptySun Feb 23, 2020 9:52 pm

louie wrote:
Facebook post.. False 😀😀😀

Noshit?

what? you make no sense.

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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptySun Feb 23, 2020 11:40 pm

Temple wrote:
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Facebook post.. False 😀😀😀

Noshit?

what? you make no sense.

Louie is saying that your list of false factchecks is simply worthless

The one you posted:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?ruling=false

is as worthless or their latest list:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/

Or this one

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?ruling=true

Fact checking anonymous FaceBook posts is like fact checking horse shit versus cow manure.

And it's been proven that their factchecking has a left leaning bent.


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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptyMon Feb 24, 2020 12:40 am

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FACTS;

facts
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?category=&ruling=false&speaker=donald-trump

Thanx for proving that politifact's "fact checking" is total horse shit.

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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptyMon Feb 24, 2020 12:46 am


PolitiFact’s Pulitzer is a good sign(yes it won a Pulitzer)

and-
PolitiFact announces an exclusive health news fact-checking partnership with Kaiser Health News (KHN)

The Poynter Institute, a global nonprofit dedicated to excellence in journalism, announces an exclusive new partnership between its fact-checking news organization, PolitiFact, and KFF (Kaiser Family Foundation) –

The trusted source of health policy information – through Kaiser Health News (KHN), KFF’s editorially independent national health and health policy newsroom.
`“KFF has a long history of providing trusted information on national health issues.
This collaboration brings the knowledge and experience of KHN’s team of journalists together with the established and trusted PolitiFact approach to help the general public, policymakers,


ST. PETERSBURG, Florida (Feb. 12, 2018) – The Poynter Institute, a global leader in journalism, has acquired direct ownership of the Pulitzer Prize-winning website PolitiFact.com from its founding entity( 2019

Nowadays, PolitiFact/Poynter editor says that a team-based approach has been the key to PolitiFact’s success.

“It takes time to fact-check thoroughly and get to the bottom of tough issues, so reporters often team up for complicated fact-checks, or on big nights like presidential debates.
To determine PolitiFact’s Truth-O-Meter ratings, three editors convene to read fact-checks, discuss them and then vote on the final rating,”

The Poynter Institute for Media Studies is a global leader in journalism education and a strategy center that stands for uncompromising excellence in journalism, media and 21st century public discourse.

Poynter faculty teach seminars and workshops at the Institute in St. Petersburg, Florida, and at conferences and organizations around the world. Its e-learning division, News University, offers the world’s largest online journalism curriculum with hundreds of interactive courses.

The Institute’s website, www.poynter.org, produces 24-hour coverage of news about media, ethics, technology, the business of news and the trends that currently define and redefine journalism news reporting.

The world’s top journalists and media innovators come to Poynter to learn and teach new generations of journalists, and to build public awareness about journalism that serves democracy and the public good.



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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptyMon Feb 24, 2020 12:59 am

Poynter is left wing, and Soros backed..

"This course is ''A project of The Poynter Institute funded by The Knight Foundation.'' Soros's Open Society Foundations have worked closely with The Knight Foundation. They partnered up to start the Investigative News Network, which received $200,000 from the Knight Foundation and $100,000 from the Open Society Foundations. The Knight Foundations President and CEO, Alberto Ibarguen, is also on the board for AOL and yet another key Soros backed group, the progressive investigative reporting start-up ProPublica."

https://www.mrc.org/articles/soros-funded-group-behind-course-journalists-downplays-jihad

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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptyMon Feb 24, 2020 1:05 am

Analysis / Bias

In review, Politifact has been called left biased by some right leaning sources. In fact, there is a source called Politifact Bias that is dedicated to pointing out Politifact’s biases. Politifact is also a signatory of the International Fact Checking Network (IFCN), which outlines a code principles for credible fact checkers.

Politifact uses minimal loaded language in their articles and headlines such as this: Trump falsely claims NATO countries owe United States money for defense spending. All information is well sourced to credible media and/or direct statements from experts in the field or the politicians themselves. Fact Check selection leans slightly left as more right wing politicians are currently fact checked. This may be due to bias or the fact that Republicans currently control all branches of government and hence there is more to check. In fact, there was a recent academic study done that shows Politifact employs minimal bias through wording.

Overall, this update reveals a slight leftward shift in Politifact’s fact checking selection, but not enough to move them from the least biased category

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/politifact/

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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptyMon Feb 24, 2020 1:35 am

So what?
if not left-wing it would be right wing..

the thing is; getting Pulitzer for fact-checking, is huge.

Kaiser Health News (KHN) merge with PolitiFact/Poynter facts is huge.

The Poynter Institute, a global leader in journalism,
has now acquired direct ownership of the Pulitzer Prize-winning website PolitiFact

It is reliable more than not.


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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptyMon Feb 24, 2020 7:21 am

Temple wrote:
So what?
if not left-wing it would be right wing.


No shit, Sherlock. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptyMon Feb 24, 2020 5:46 pm

Bernie Sanders ;
PolitiFact Check-
True;
Not once in his entire career in Washington, D.C.,
which started way back in 1991, has Democratic Socialist
Bernie Sanders ever voted yes on sanctions against Russia.
True;
BernieSanders receives strong support from
the conservative & most rural part of Vermont.




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PostSubject: FACT; True Fact Check;   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptyMon Mar 02, 2020 12:46 am

CLICK; SCROLL DOWN--

https://www.politifact.com/

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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptyMon Mar 02, 2020 4:41 pm

Obi--
the thread ''Fake'' checkers
are the opposite of my
''True ''checker;

take a breath--
all things are not the same by a word Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptyMon Mar 02, 2020 6:35 pm

Temple wrote:
Obi--
the thread ''Fake'' checkers
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take a breath--
all things are not the same by a word  Rolling Eyes

People can decide for themselves.

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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptyMon Mar 02, 2020 6:40 pm

The Wise And Powerful wrote:
Temple wrote:
Obi--
the thread ''Fake'' checkers
are the opposite of my
''True ''checker;

take a breath--
all things are not the same by a word  Rolling Eyes

People can decide for themselves.

Not if they don't have a choice-
one way is never good..nopers.

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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptyMon Mar 02, 2020 6:42 pm

Temple wrote:
The Wise And Powerful wrote:
Temple wrote:
Obi--
the thread ''Fake'' checkers
are the opposite of my
''True ''checker;

take a breath--
all things are not the same by a word  Rolling Eyes

People can decide for themselves.

Not if they don't have a choice-
one way is never good..nopers.

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PostSubject: Fact Check Trump ;   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptySun May 31, 2020 1:47 am

Associated Press -May 30, 2020

Fact check:
Trump lies about Obama making prescription drug prices worse

The Affordable Care Act reduced out-of-pocket prescription costs for seniors.

Donald Trump tangled the facts when he asserted Tuesday at a White House Rose Garden event that "Obamacare" raised prescription drug costs for older people — the opposite is true.

Trump also misfired by taunting Democratic presidential rival Joe Biden for supposedly being soft on drug prices.
Biden supports Medicare negotiations to lower prices, similar to what Trump called for as a Republican candidate in 2016 but later set aside.

Trump was announcing a $35 monthly limit on insulin copays under Medicare.

A look at the claims:

TRUMP: "In the past, Obamacare prevented insurance providers from competing to offer lower costs for seniors. There was no competition, there was no anything, and they ran away with what took place, and the seniors were horribly hurt."

THE FACTS: The Affordable Care Act actually reduced out-of-pocket prescription costs for seniors. It did not prevent insurers from competing to offer lower costs.

President Barack Obama's law reduced what seniors had to pay back then by gradually closing the "doughnut hole," a notorious coverage gap in Medicare's popular "Part D" prescription drug plan.

A 50% discount that Obamacare secured from drug makers on brand-name medicines yielded an average savings of $581 in 2011 for seniors with high drug costs, according to an analysis at the time by Medicare's nonpartisan Office of the Actuary for the Associated Press.

On top of that, the ACA directed Medicare to pick up more of the cost of generic drugs, saving an additional $22.

By tackling the coverage gap, Obama's law helped Medicare recipients with high drug costs generally, not only those patients who must take insulin to manage their diabetes.

On Tuesday, Trump announced that next year most seniors would have access to prescription plans that limit monthly copays for insulin to $35, for an average savings of $446 annually.

On the claim that Obamacare stifled insurer competition, there's no evidence that was the case.

"Given the large number of Medicare prescription drug plans available to seniors, it is not clear how the Obama administration prevented insurers from competing with each other,"
said Tricia Neuman, a Medicare expert with the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation.

Neuman cited statistics for 2012, midway through the Obama years, when the average number of Medicare Part D drug plans ranged across regions from a low of 25 to a high of 36 — more than enough to facilitate healthy competition.
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TRUMP: "So we're getting it down — $35 per month ... So it's a massive cut — I guess, 60, 70%. Nobody has seen anything like this for a long time. Sleepy Joe can't do this — that, I can tell you."

THE FACTS:
Actually, Biden wants to do much more. The Democratic presidential candidate supports allowing Medicare to negotiate prices with drug makers, restricting price increases to the inflation rate and limiting launch prices for new drugs that face no competition.

As a 2016 candidate, Trump had backed Medicare negotiations. But he has not pursued that idea, although the Congressional Budget Office estimated it could result in significant savings for taxpayers and consumers.

Congress is at an impasse over legislation to reduce drug costs, including a bipartisan Senate bill backed by Trump that would act to limit price increases for medicines already on the market. But it would not authorize Medicare to negotiate prices.



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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptyWed Jul 08, 2020 2:46 pm

‘Independent’ Facebook fact-checker exposed as partisan smear factory packed with CNN alumni
18 Jun, 2020 19:39 / Updated 20 days ago
© Reuters / Dado Ruvic / Brian Snyder

Facebook fact-checker Lead Stories is a biased outfit bristling with ex-CNN staffers that presents itself as neutral, despite most of its employees having donated to the Democratic Party, a conservative outlet has revealed.

The National Pulse (TNP), whose story about supposed financial links between Black Lives Matter, Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, and fundraiser ActBlue was flagged as “partly false” by Lead Stories on Facebook, did some digging on Wednesday to find out who was behind the smear, after their efforts to contest the label were apparently stonewalled.

https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1273341791379619841

What they discovered was an organization staffed almost entirely by Democratic donors, half of whom had worked for CNN in the past. A quarter of the employees were recurring Democratic donors, TNP revealed, suggesting an egregious conflict of interest, given the story they’d flagged at the conservative outlet was about contributions to a Democratic presidential campaign.

Lead Stories founder Perry Sanders has donated over $10,000 to Democratic political campaigns, including Hillary Clinton’s and Barack Obama’s presidential runs, TNP showed, providing copious links to back up the laundry list of partisan affiliations it had stumbled across. Several other writers had Democratic contributions on their records too. One, Gita Smith, was listed in 99 separate small-dollar donations to various Democratic candidates, as well as some contributions directly to ActBlue and the activism group Indivisible.

Editor-in-chief Alan Duke, who had initially rebuffed TNP’s editor’s request to have its fact-check reconsidered, spent nearly three decades with CNN as a reporter and editor, while senior editor Monte Plott spent over a decade with the Trump-loathing network. Five other names on the group’s masthead had also worked at CNN at some point.

Nor were CNN and the Democratic Party the only partisan affiliations to be found among the Lead Stories staff. Before spending 10 years with CNN, writer Jessica Ravitz – who bills herself as a “freelance journalist and storyteller” on her LinkedIn page – spent nearly four years with the Anti-Defamation League, a self-styled anti-“hate” watchdog that spends most of its considerable resources demonizing political voices that deviate from the neoliberal centrist mainstream-media line.

Lead Stories had unwittingly triggered the investigative frenzy by flagging TNP’s story titled “Black Lives Matter Website, ‘Defund the Police’ Donations Go to ‘Act Blue’, the ‘Biden for President’ Campaign’s Top Source of Donations” on Wednesday. It also overlaid it with a grayed-out “party-false information” warning screen on Facebook and included the story in the “Hoax Alert” section of its website. Ironically, the fact-checker was actually correct in this case: BLM’s donations go through, not to ActBlue, which is a payment processor for Democratic campaigns and not the ultimate source of the Biden campaign’s cash.

However, when TNP editor-in-chief Raheem Kassam corrected the headline to change “to” to “through,” he claimed Lead Stories refused to lift the “partly false” distinction, even though the new headline was factually correct and the meat of the story – that Biden’s campaign and Black Lives Matter were using the same payment processor and, thus, gave the impression of being ideological peers – hadn’t been called into question.

What has been called into question is the idea of Lead Stories as an independent fact-checker. While Facebook defended it by pointing out that Lead Stories is certified by the Poynter Institute’s International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN), such a designation is unlikely to put any doubts to rest, given that Poynter and the IFCN are supported by such bogeymen of bias as eBay billionaire Pierre Omidyar and currency speculator George Soros’s Open Society Foundations.

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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptySat Jul 11, 2020 4:17 pm

I started looking into these shysters and found them all to be lib propaganda when years ago Romney said Jeep moved some of it's manufacturing to Mexico.. Snopes said they didn't and romney was 100% wrong.

When in fact Jeep DID move several lines down to mexico
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PostSubject: Re: Fact Checkers Are Fake   Fact Checkers Are Fake EmptySat Jul 11, 2020 4:19 pm

My favorite is Media matters started by David Brock.
Brock was a republican.. then he voluntarily put himself into a nut house and came out a homosexual democrat.

that is hilarious
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