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Judge rules Giuliani henchman Lev Parnas can share documents and phone data with Congress
A judge has ruled that Lev Parnas, the indicted henchman of Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani who is facing multiple campaign finance fraud charges, can start sharing certain documents and data with the House of Representatives’ impeachment inquiry.
The Associated Press reports that U.S. District Court Judge Paul Oetken is letting Parnas turn over documents and phone data that were seized by investigators upon his arrest this past October. Parnas’s attorney said in a court filing that he believes that the United States Department of Justice will send these records to Parnas this week.
Prosecutors in the case did not raise any objections to Parnas sharing the records with the House Intelligence Committee, the AP reports.
Parnas was a key figure in Giuliani’s scheme to help pressure the Ukrainian government to launch investigations into former Vice President Joe Biden, who is a frontrunner to win the 2020 Democratic nomination.
Despite his own central role in the scheme, Parnas has maintained that he wants to cooperate with investigators and has said that he has information relevant to the impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump.
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:29 pm
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A judge has ruled that Lev Parnas, the indicted henchman of Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani who is facing multiple campaign finance fraud charges, can start sharing certain documents and data with the House of Representatives’ impeachment inquiry.
Right outta the gate the author refers to the guy as Giuliani's henchman, indicating that he and Giuliani were involved in some kinda plot, while there's no evidence of that ...and being indicted is much different than being convicted of anything
The impeachment inquiry has been over and done, so how can he share the data with the house inquiry? .. The house has put forth their witnesses and evidence and has already voted to impeach ..A bit late to be tryin' to gather evidence
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Parnas was a key figure in Giuliani’s scheme to help pressure the Ukrainian government to launch investigations into former Vice President Joe Biden, who is a frontrunner to win the 2020 Democratic nomination.
The stance of the Trump defense is, and has been that there was no pressure applied to Ukraine to investigate Biden .. That was confirmed by the transcript of the call as well as the Ukraine president ... Since Trump and/or Giuliani haven't been convicted of anything, the author is falsely stating his/her own speculation or opinion as fact
Also, there's no way to deem Biden as "frontrunner to win the nomination" this early in the campaigns ...Despite favorable early polls, Biden has floundered since day one .. I suggest his chance of winning the nomination are slim to none ... This is more speculation/opinion from the author
For the sake of argument, let's say Biden wins the nomination .. Trump would shred him in the debates ...I believe Trump would be glad to have Biden as an opponent in the election and never had a motive to pressure Zelinsky for dirt on him ... IMO the film of him bragging about withholding aid from Ukraine in return for firing the prosecutor should suffice ... To ask Ukraine to look into the Bidens' dealings with Ukraine has the potential to open a huge can of worms with the corruption over there
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Subject: ------ IMPEACHMENT --!! Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:27 pm
There are more nails in trumps impeachment coffin--
2 mins ago on January 11, 2020
Lev Parnas attorney tells judge there are ‘essential’ documents Congress needs for impeachment
The attorney representing Rudy Giuliani associate Lev Parnas is requesting permission from a federal judge to turn over more materials to Congress for the impeachment of President Donald Trump.
Attorney Joseph Bondy wrote to Judge J. Paul Oetken requesting a modification of a protective order governing the use of evidence collected as part of the criminal prosecution of Parnas.
Bondy requested that a digital copy of all the information on two iPhones and a Samsun phone be turned over to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
“Review of these materials is essential to the Committee’s ability to corroborate the strength of Mr. Parnas’s potential testimony,” the letter read.
According to the letter, prosecutors do not object to the request.
Bondy posted the letter to Twitter, with the hashtags “Let Lev Speak” and “Lev Remembers.”
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:33 pm
Can and being requested to are 2 different things. The House completely screwed the pooch in their " investigation".. the Senate does the trial, the house does the investigation .. NOT the other way around.
The house keeps pushing for the senate to do an investigation because they themselves HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF ANY WRONG DOING AND KNOW THE SENATE WILL NOT CHARGE TRUMP.
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Subject: NEWS; TONIGHT-- Lev Parnas Will Dump a Pile on Trump !! Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:47 pm
Lev Parnas and his lawyer will sit down with Rachel Maddow. It will air tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern.
whoa-- Maddow interviewing Lev Parnas . That's going to be a good thing.. Can't wait for Lev Parnas to tell it like it is who and what and how it went down.
Lev Parnas opened a can of snakes not worms that can take trump out.
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:57 pm
This is a BOMB !!! can't wait to watch the BOOM!, at 8;oo pm
Lev Parnas on Maddow tonight; it's an '' Exclusive--
so trump and lawyers are at attention viewing as are Both the House and Senate peoples. All, are watching this one- the takedown of a president.
--leaked from the interview; Parnas to Maddow: President Trump "knew exactly what was going on” with the efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate former vice president and 2020 rival Joe Biden
Parnas made the comments in response to Maddow’s question of what was the “main inaccuracy or the main lie being told that you feel like you can correct.”
“The president didn’t know what was going on. President Trump knew exactly what was going on.
“He was aware of all of my movements,” he added. “I wouldn’t do anything without the consent of Rudy Giuliani or the president.”
He added that Trump’s claim that he didn’t know Parnas was a lie.
Parnas’ primetime interview comes after House Democratic investigators released a tranche of documents from Parnas revealing jaw-dropping details.
Maddow interviewing Lev Parnas . tonight- air at 8 ct on Maddow MSNBC
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:33 pm
Thanx again, Mr TV Guide ... but I had previous plans on watching a turd drop from a dog's ass
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:24 pm
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Thanx again, Mr TV Guide ... but I had previous plans on watching a turd drop from a dog's ass
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:45 am
Lev Parnas implicates Trump on the eve of Senate impeachment trial David Knowles, Editor, Yahoo News • January 16, 2020
Lev Parnas, a key player in President Trump’s efforts to obtain a Ukrainian investigation of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter, gave a bombshell interview to MSNBC Wednesday that undercut the president’s defense just hours before the Senate was scheduled to begin his impeachment trial.
“It was all about Joe Biden, Hunter Biden and also Rudy had a personal thing with the Manafort stuff,” Parnas said of the efforts to convince Ukraine’s government to announce an investigation of the Bidens, “but it was never about corruption, it was strictly about Burisma, which included Hunter Biden and Joe Biden.”
Parnas, a Soviet-born U.S. citizen who has been indicted by the Southern District of New York on campaign finance violations, turned over notes, text messages and other information to House investigators Wednesday. In his interview with Rachel Maddow, Parnas, who sat beside his lawyer, said he came forward because “I want to get the truth out because I think it’s important to the country, it’s important to me.”
Trump has sought to distance himself from Parnas and Igor Fruman, both of whom worked with Rudy Giuliani, Trump’s lawyer, on the efforts to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to announce an investigation of the Bidens, and on the campaign to oust U.S. Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch.
“I don’t know those gentlemen,” Trump said in October about Parnas and Fruman, despite the fact that the men had been photographed together numerous times.
“He lied,” Parnas said, adding, “He knew exactly who we were.”
Parnas said the president was fully aware that he was working with Giuliani to secure Zelensky’s cooperation in an effort to tarnish the reputation of Biden, the leading Democratic candidate to run against Trump this year.
"Trump knew exactly what was going on,” Parnas said, adding he “wouldn't do anything without consent of Rudy Giuliani or the president.”
Maddow asked Parnas about a handwritten note made during a phone conversation with Giuliani that he turned over to House investigators that included the line: “get Zalensky [sic] to announce that the Biden case will be investigated.”
“That was always the main objective," Parnas said of Trump’s motive for pressuring Ukraine’s government.
Parnas and Fruman, who has also been indicted, were given access to Ukrainian officials that Parnas, a Florida businessman with no diplomatic credentials or official post, said he would not have received otherwise.
"Why would President Zelensky’s inner circle, or Minister Avakov, or all these people, or President Poroshenko, meet with me?” Parnas told Maddow. “Who am I? They were told to meet with me. And that’s the secret that they’re trying to keep. I was on the ground doing their work.”
Parnas also said the Trump administration’s attempts to convince Ukraine to announce an investigation of the Bidens extended to Vice President Mike Pence.
Pence canceled his planned attendance at Zelensky’s inauguration as a way to further pressure him, Parnas said.
On his efforts with Giuliani to have Yovanovitch removed from office because she was not sufficiently supportive of Trump and was impeding efforts to secure the promise of an investigation into the Bidens, Parnas expressed regret.
“I don’t believe Ambassador Yovanovitch badmouthed Trump, and I want to apologize to her,” Parnas said.
The materials turned over to the House this week included text messages Parnas exchanged with a Trump campaign hanger-on named Robert Hyde. The messages referenced efforts to oust Yovanovitch, who was viewed as an obstacle to the deal Giuliani hoped to strike with Ukraine. Some of the messages had what appeared to be sinister overtones, implying that Yovanovitch was being followed and might be in danger, but Parnas downplayed that possibility to Maddow, saying he was only stringing Hyde along.
Parnas also told Maddow that Attorney General William Barr was aware of the efforts launched by Trump and Giuliani to discredit the Mueller investigation and procure an investigation of the Bidens.
“Mr. Barr had to have known everything," Parnas said, adding that he was in the room when Giuliani and others spoke with the attorney general.
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:01 am
"100% False" -- Hah-Hah!! - DOJ Quickly Responds to Rachel Maddow's Latest Nutcase Guest Who Democrats Hoped Would Take Down Trump"
"100% False" -- Hah-Hah!! - DOJ Quickly Responds to Rachel Maddow's Latest Nutcase Guest Who Democrats Hoped Would Take Down Trump"
Barr is going under investigation; he is chin deep in it. Also- Lev Parnas has Evidence/ not known/disclosed. He has voice mails (not yet heard a trove of text messages (not revealed videos (not yet revealed and 100's of pages exchanges and black and white documents.
All ^^ not known to the public so-- it's all yet to come. it will be interesting, indeed.
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:01 pm
Here is an episode that played out in the degenerated mind of Temple
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whoa-- Maddow interviewing Lev Parnas . That's going to be a good thing.. Can't wait for Lev Parnas to tell it like it is who and what and how it went down.
Lev Parnas opened a can of snakes not worms that can take trump out.
Hand wringing with excitement, he came back to remind us about the upcoming Rachel Maddow show that will finally finish Trump
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Lev Parnas on Maddow tonight; This is a BOMB !!! can't wait to watch the BOOM!, at 8;oo pm
Lev Parnas on Maddow tonight; it's an '' Exclusive--
~"BOMB!!! ...BOOM! ..it's an Exclusive"~ ...lol
(Temple ties his bib and puts on his helmet, sits down, and with remote in hand, farts into the couch and tunes in to Maddow at 8:00 p.m. sharp)
I don't watch TV and admittedly missed the Exclusive BOMB that went BOOM, but I figured it was a dud when Temple didn't return with a report, leaving another trail of urine behind .. But he's back today to attempt to explain why the BOMB didn't BOOM and why Maddow didn't detonate it
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Lev Parnas has Evidence/ not known/disclosed. He has voice mails (not yet heard a trove of text messages (not revealed videos (not yet revealed and 100's of pages exchanges and black and white documents.
All ^^ not known to the public so-- it's all yet to come.
Well I thought that was the hype of the Maddow show .. Still the evidence is "not known" ..All these voice mails, text messages, videos, and documents are still "~not known to the public~" but apparently known only to Temple .. Why would anyone need Maddow while Temple walks the earth?
We don't even need this ugly little Ukrainian lout to tell us what's up ... Temple-The-All-Knowing is here .. We know now that -"it's all yet to come"- but when, Temple, WHEN? ..Can't ya throw us a bone? .. Give us some teaser info? ..One little email? .. Not the whole BOMB ..just a lil firecracker
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:26 pm
Thing is; there are over a 100 pieces of evidence; texts, videos, emails, documents.. Nobody has yet seen. The House has seen a great many. and they believe it is a bomb! so- we have to wait and see what is what. it may be good it may be bad, dunno. it is interesting, for sure.
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:37 pm
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Thing is; there are over a 100 pieces of evidence; texts, videos, emails, documents.. Nobody has yet seen. The House has seen a great many. and they believe it is a bomb! so- we have to wait and see what is what. it may be good it may be bad, dunno. it is interesting, for sure.
The House will believe anything, as long as they think it will hurt Trump.
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:16 pm
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we have to wait and see what is what. it may be good it may be bad, dunno.
That's a far fuk'n Stretch from the BOMB you promised yesterday ... WTF .. "WAIT"? .. Is that what Maddow said? ... Maybe good, maybe bad, dunno? ... You and Maddow had the goods before her 8:00 p.m. BOOM ...the can of snakes (not worms) opening up on Trump's ass .. Now you have no clue "what is what"
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:21 pm
hmm
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:23 pm
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we have to wait and see what is what. it may be good it may be bad, dunno.
You and Maddow had the goods before her 8:00 p.m. BOOM
No- it was a promo type thing a simp to entice you. AND! More ''BOOMS'' tonight Part 2 of the interview - don't miss it more to come ...
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:32 pm
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No- it was a promo type thing a simp to entice you.
Yea right ... If anything it appeared you were tryin' to promote MSNBC and Maddow ... Again, I don't do TV, so it certainly doesn't entice me
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:02 pm
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:11 pm
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:21 am
I'll just leave this here to emphasize the credibility of Maddow
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:39 pm
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:57 am
Schiff may have mischaracterized Parnas evidence, documents show By Melanie Zanona, Politico•January 21, 2020
House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff appears to have mischaracterized a text message exchange between two players in the Ukraine saga, according to documents obtained by POLITICO — a possible error the GOP will likely criticize as another example of the Democrats’ rushed effort to impeach President Donald Trump.
The issue arose when Schiff (D-Calif.) sent a letter to House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) last week summarizing a trove of evidence from Lev Parnas, an indicted former associate of Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani. In one section of the letter, Schiff claims that Parnas “continued to try to arrange a meeting with President Zelensky,” citing a specific text message exchange where Parnas tells Giuliani: “trying to get us mr Z.” The remainder of the exchange — which was attached to Schiff’s letter — was redacted.
But an unredacted version of the exchange shows that several days later, Parnas sent Giuliani a word document that appears to show notes from an interview with Mykola Zlochevsky, the founder of Burisma, followed by a text message to Giuliani that states: “mr Z answers my brother.” That suggests Parnas was referring to Zlochevsky not Zelensky.
The word document contains a series of questions and answers, but doesn't identify who is doing the asking or answering. Yet the questions center on the hiring practices at Burisma, while the responses include statements such as "we wanted to build Burisma as [an] international company” and "we also thought it would help in Ukraine to have strong international board figures,” which seems to point to Zlochevsky — not the Ukrainian president — as the respondent.
The apparent mischaracterization, however, does not undercut Democrats' argument that Trump withheld critical military aid to Ukraine as a way to pressure Zelenksy into opening up investigations into the Bidens, including Joe Biden’s son Hunter, who was once a board member on Burisma, a Ukrainian natural gas company.
A Democratic official working on the impeachment trial didn’t dispute the suggestion that the initial interpretation was incorrect. But the official maintains that “z” was commonly used as short-hand for “Zelensky” by those involved in the Ukraine pressure campaign, and noted that the word document does not reveal its author or source.
The official also pointed out that there is little question that Giuliani and Parnas sought “high-level engagement with President Zelensky and his administration.”
“Beginning with Mr. Giuliani’s May 10 letter to President Zelensky two months earlier and leading up to Mr. Giuliani’s August 2 meeting with Mr. Zelensky’s representatives in Spain, Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Parnas actively sought high-level engagement with President Zelensky and his administration to carry out the President’s corrupt scheme,” the official said. “If Mr. Giuliani sought out dirt from other sources, that would be consistent with their overall effort.”
There are plenty of examples of Giuliani attempting to arrange a meeting with Zelensky, and he did in fact meet with top aides to the Ukrainian president — even though Parnas’ role in the whole matter is still unclear. And Democrats have not predicated their impeachment trial arguments on Parnas' new allegations, making limited references to the former Giuliani associate in their brief.
But it appears that Democrats misjudged at least one instance where they thought they found an example of Parnas trying to arrange a meeting between Giuliani and Zelensky, according to the unredacted material. Democrats didn't receive the Parnas evidence from the courts until last week and were scrambling to sort through all the materials ahead of the Senate impeachment trial.
A Republican aide said the assumption that “mr Z” is a reference to Zelensky is sloppy oversight work at best.
“The most charitable view of the situation is that [Schiff’s] staff committed the equivalent of Congressional malpractice by not looking more than an inch deep to determine the facts before foisting this erroneous information on his colleagues and the American public,” said one senior GOP aide.
“But given the selective redactions and contextual clues, it seems as though Chairman Schiff sought to portray an innocuous meeting with Ukrainian oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky as an insidious one with the President of Ukraine simply because both of their surnames start with the letter Z.”
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Subject: -- Video; The Attorney For Lev Parnas Trolled Mitch McConnell Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:35 pm
-- Another trump lie exposed-----
The attorney for Lev Parnas trolled Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) on Saturday in a bid for a “fair” impeachment trial.
Attorney Joseph Bondy posted the audio of Trump meeting with Parnas and Igor Fruman ((along with the song “Never Gonna Give You Up.”
The video was a message to McConnell and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham. Bondy urged the two to “vote with integrity and conscience. Call the witnesses. Hear the evidence. Have a fair trial,” he urged. Video; https://twitter.com/i/status/1221211937117220864
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Subject: Re: Lev Parnas Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:04 pm
Democrats Accidentally Proved Trump Is INNOCENT With LEAKED Audio Tape, Impeachment Collapsing Tim Pool • Jan 25, 2020
Democrats Accidentally Proved Trump Is INNOCENT With LEAKED Audio Tape, Impeachment Collapsing. As the impeachment trial for Donald Trump drones on with no new information the Democrats allies in media seemed to have made a tactical error in bringing on Lev Parnas to give his account of what was going on with Trump in Ukraine.
In a recent interview with Rachel Maddow Parnas claimed that Trump ordered the firing of Ambassador Yovanovitch, the only problem? This dinner was in April 2018, a full year before Joe Biden would ever announce he was running for office.
We now have direct confirmation of that meeting with leaked audio tapes that not only prove Trump's Ukraine actions had absolutely nothing to do with Biden but that the real reason for firing Yovanovitch was that she was bad mouthing him to officials in Ukraine and undermining his foreign policy.
Democrats like Adam Schiff keep asserting without evidence that Trump was trying to dig up dirt on joe Biden, but now we know that timeline makes absolutely no sense as Biden hadn't even announced his plan for the presidency yet. To argue that Trump was predicting the future would be an absurd leap and an attempt at mind reading.
The simple solution is that once again Democrats are wrong and impeachment is collapsing in front of our eyes.