Democratic Presidential Candidates Debate in New Hampshire

The long of it:

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There are more to come--

I'd like to hear from Bloomberg, too
but doesn't look like he will be included.

US election 2020: Big questions after Democrats spar in New Hampshire
Anthony Zurcher, BBC North America reporter
56 minutes ago

Four days after the Iowa caucuses descended into chaos and four days before New Hampshire holds its presidential primary, Democratic presidential hopefuls gathered in Manchester for their eighth debate.

It was a spirited affair.

Polls suggest the two candidates who finished near the top in Iowa - Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders - are also vying for the top spot in New Hampshire. Not surprisingly, then, they were the targets of the sharpest criticism.

It was Buttigieg, however, who proved to be the most attractive target. The Sanders faithful are loyal and unlikely to waver. Buttigieg has been prying supporters from Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren and blocking Amy Klobuchar's rise as a moderate alternative.

On Friday night, they fought back.

"Buttigieg is a great guy and a real patriot," Biden said at the top of the debate, before going for the throat. "He's a mayor of a small city who has done some good things, but has not demonstrated he has the ability to... get a broad scope of support across the spectrum, including African-Americans and Latinos."

Klobuchar also took a swipe at Buttigieg's relatively thin political resume, quipping that Donald Trump is also a newcomer to the White House, "and look where that got us". She took exception to Buttigieg's attempts to position himself as a mid-western outsider standing against Washington establishment opponents.

"It is easy to go after Washington, because that's a popular thing to do," she said. "It is much harder to lead and much harder to take those difficult positions, because I think this going after every single thing that people do because it's popular to say and makes you look like a cool newcomer, I don't think that's what people want right now."

Even ABC moderator Linsey Davis joined the fray, asking Buttigieg whether systemic racism explained why black people in South Bend when he was mayor were more likely to be arrested for drug offences.

"There is no question that systemic racism has penetrated to every level of our system," Buttigieg replied. "And my city was not immune."

When asked if his answer was sufficient, Elizabeth Warren said: "No".

"We have to own up to the facts," she continued. "And it's important to own up to the facts of how race has permeated our criminal justice system."

Sanders didn't emerge entirely unscathed, however. Biden challenged him to explain how he was going to pass his ambitious universal government healthcare plan, which he said would cost more than the entire current US federal budget.

Buttigieg also took aim at the Vermont senator, suggesting that his liberal extremism was "dividing people with the politics that says, if you don't go all the way to the edge, it doesn't count, a politics that says it's my way or the highway".

"Needless to say, I never said that," Sanders countered, turning back to his tried and true campaign theme. "The way you bring people together is by presenting an agenda that works for the working people of this country, not for the billionaire class."

Debate topics included gun control, trade deals, the assassination of Iranian General Qasem Soleimani, drug legalisation, the Supreme Court, impeachment and healthcare reform.

The major source of friction between the candidates, however, was who was best positioned to beat Trump in November. Electability, Democratic voters consistently tell pollsters, is their overriding concern.

Here's a look at how each performed - and the biggest question their campaigns still face.

Joe Biden

The former vice-president perhaps had the most at stake in this debate. He was reeling after a fourth-place finish in Iowa and facing dwindling campaign funds and sinking expectations.

"I took a hit in Iowa," he said, "and I'll probably take a hit here."

If he does poorly in New Hampshire, his campaign may not recover. This was one of his sharpest debate performances, however, largely free from the sometimes-rambling responses that typified his earlier appearances.

Big question: His debate showing may be enough to stanch his campaign's bleeding, but will it give him the boost he needs?

Pete Buttigieg

The former mayor entered the debate with a big target on his back, and his opponents took dead aim.

Buttigieg is always quick on his feet, however, and he avoided the kind of debate disaster that could bring a surging campaign like his crashing back down to earth. Almost half of New Hampshire voters are registered independent, and they might find Buttigieg's big-tent, moderate pitch appealing - platitudes and all.

Big question: Did Buttigieg do anything to address his seeming inability to appeal to minority voters and carry his momentum past New Hampshire?

Bernie Sanders

Supporters say one of Sanders' most endearing qualities is the consistency of his message. He has been railing against big corporations and the "billionaire class" for the better part of 30 years.

Friday night's debate was another collection of his greatest hits, as he stayed relentlessly on message even when under attack.

Big question: While Sanders' base loves his message, did the Vermont senator find a way to attract new devotees?

Elizabeth Warren

It's hard to believe that just a few months ago Elizabeth Warren was the candidate everyone in the political world was buzzing about. Even though she posted a respectable third-place finish in Iowa, she has been eclipsed by Buttigieg's rise and Sanders' durability.

During Friday's debate, she mostly stuck to her regular themes - and disappeared into the background - except for one moment where she said that her anti-corruption message was the key to her electability.

She might have hoped that in a nasty debate she could rise above the fray, but that wasn't how things played out.

Big question: With time running out, what is Warren waiting for?

Amy Klobuchar

Another debate, another strong performance by the Minnesota senator. She drew sharp contrasts with Sanders and Buttigieg.

When Biden insisted he was best positioned to help at-risk senators in places like Minnesota win re-election, she drew laughs with her one word response: "Seriously?"

All that and a few million dollars might keep her in the hunt past New Hampshire. As long as Buttigieg holds up and Biden steadies himself, however, her path forward is uncertain.

Big question: Were there enough independent and moderate New Hampshire voters watching a Friday night debate with an open mind to make any difference for her campaign?

Tom Steyer

Friday night was the feistiest the hedge-fund billionaire has been on the debate stage.

He warned that Buttigieg didn't have the "experience" to take down Trump. He accused Biden of taking black support in South Carolina for granted.

And he boasted that he was the only candidate with a plan to provide reparations to black Americans for slavery.

Big question: Steyer has spent heavily in South Carolina and Nevada - states which will vote in the weeks ahead - but can he keep his place near the top of the polls once the other campaigns shift their focus past New Hampshire?

Andrew Yang

The tech entrepreneur was back on the debate stage after missing the cut last month, once again warning of the dangers of automation and touting his $1,000-a-month (£776) guaranteed basic income.

As with past debates, he tended to be overlooked by the moderators, who spent more time attempting to instigate clashes among the front-runners.

Big question: While Yang has a devoted following, will lagging poll numbers mean this is last debate of his unorthodox campaign?

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Elizabeth Warren; I can hardly tolerate her voice..
I don't like listening to her because of the sounding/pitch/whatever voice.
it is very annoying.

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The take aways:
The buy-in bloomers was MIA.
They all clamored to be the top criminal forgiver. Including rewarding them with cash.
The winner again... Was Trump

louie wrote:: The take aways:
The buy-in bloomers was MIA.
They all clamored to be the top criminal forgiver. Including rewarding them with cash.
The winner again... Was Trump

Trump by a landslide!!!

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The Wise And Powerful wrote:

louie wrote:: The take aways:
The buy-in bloomers was MIA.
They all clamored to be the top criminal forgiver. Including rewarding them with cash.
The winner again... Was Trump

Trump by a landslide!!!

Not with the majority of citizens..
thing is;
No matter who
even if a bus driver
the Dems will vote to rid of trump.

trump has a minority
Dems have the majority.

''vote blue
no matter who''

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FEB 07, 2020

62% of New Hampshire Democrats say they’d prefer human extinction to 2nd Trump term: poll

Sixty-two percent of New Hampshire Democrats said they would prefer to see a large stray shooting star crash into Earth and end all human life than suffer through the reelection of President Trump

The meteor strike garnered strong support from women in the hypothetical,
snagging 68% of the vote against the incumbent commander-in-chief.

Male Democrats were less inclined to embrace the end of human life, although 53% said they’d accept the extinction if the alternative was a mulligan for the Trump administration.

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Quote :

62% of New Hampshire Democrats say they’d prefer human extinction to 2nd Trump term: poll

Well they're all free to blow their fool heads off without including the resta the fuk'n world in their idiotic scenario

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Grackle wrote:

Quote :: 62% of New Hampshire Democrats say they’d prefer human extinction to 2nd Trump term: poll

Well they're all free to blow their fool heads off without including the resta the fuk'n world in their idiotic scenario

Well, obviously 68% of New Hampshire
that will not vote for trump
((that ain't good for trump, nope))

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Well, obviously 68% of New Hampshire
that will not vote for trump
((that ain't good for trump, nope))

You clearly have no capacity for comprehending what you read ... The 68% represents 68% of female democrats, Stupid ..Not 68% of all New Hampshire ...and that 68% of female democrats are those in favor of a hypothetical meteor strike, wiping out the entire world population ... So continue to tote that stupidity around as "ain't good for Trump" ...You're truly an idiot

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Grackle wrote:

Quote :: Well, obviously 68% of New Hampshire
that will not vote for trump
((that ain't good for trump, nope))

You clearly have no capacity for comprehending what you read ... The 68% represents 68% of female democrats,

oowwee ok-
trump will not get 68% of women vote..
but-
62% of New Hampshire Democrats say
they’d prefer human extinction to 2nd Trump term:
yah 62% that is a death blow, yuppers ....

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Quote :

oowwee ok-
trump will not get 68% of women vote..

Again, you don't have the capacity to comprehend even after I explained it to you ..The 68% represents -democrat- women and not all women ..and again, you truly are an idiot

but-

Quote :

62% of New Hampshire Democrats say they’d prefer human extinction to 2nd Trump term:
yah 62% that is a death blow, yuppers ....

You have no way of knowing how many that would be ...you have no way of knowing how many democrats live in New Hampshire ....The entire premise of the article is idiotic, which is likely why you would tote it around as if it's even remotely based in any kinda fact

BIDEN CALLS SKEPTICAL NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTER ‘A LYING, DOG-FACED PONY SOLDIER’
The dust-up came after the voter asked whether he can rebound from Iowa
Feb 9, 2020 1:37 PM
By Tom Elliott

Perhaps the pressure is getting to him.

On Sunday, Joe Biden snapped at a voter in New Hampshire, calling her a “lying, dog-faced pony soldier.”

The dust-up came after the voter asked Biden, “How do you explain the performance in Iowa and why should the voters believe that you can win a national election?"

"You ever been to a caucus?" Biden replied.

After the voter said she indeed had attended a caucus, Biden shot back: "No you haven’t. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier."

"You gotta be honest,” he continued. “I’m gonna be honest with you. It was a little bit confusing in Iowa. But let’s assume it was all exactly right."

Biden told the unknown voter Iowa has a poor record picking presidential winners. The comments were first flagged by Yahoo News’ Jon Ward.

Biden was speaking at the first of two Sunday campaign events in Hampton, New Hampshire. The latest polling from the Boston Globe/Suffolk University is tracking Biden in fourth place, only one point ahead of Sen. Amy Klobuchar.

Video at https://news.grabien.com/story-biden-calls-skeptical-new-hampshire-voter-lying-dog-faced-po

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All 3;
Warren, Biden, Sanders..
are too Old to be president.
Wish they would step aside and give us young and new
all 3 are still hanging in the 20th century.

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Temple wrote:

The Wise And Powerful wrote:

louie wrote:: The take aways:
The buy-in bloomers was MIA.
They all clamored to be the top criminal forgiver. Including rewarding them with cash.
The winner again... Was Trump

Trump by a landslide!!!

Not with the majority of citizens..
thing is;
No matter who
even if a bus driver
the Dems will vote to rid of trump.

trump has a minority
Dems have the majority.

''vote blue
no matter who''

I'll tell you what. How about a $20 bet? The loser donates $20 to the winner's favorite organization.
The only rule is, if you win I refuse to donate to any communist organization.

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Yang and Bennet dropped out..

Bernie on top.
He was playing in his stomping grounds
it was a given he'd do very well. there.

Pete is close on Bernies heals..
Next stop Pete will down Bernie..

Both Warren and Biden are rolling quite low.

Biden;
he is running backwards--
how things were and can be again.
He is running on Obama's coattails.
and he's too old, most want new and young.

Warren;
Most like Bernies free stuff
better than her Free stuff.
She doesn't come off as being presidential.
She doesn't look the part.

Amy;
She is surprisingly moving up. doing well.

Both the moderates;
Pete and Amy are going to the top.

)ooh well, there are more states-
things can and will change.

looking forward to when Bloomberg takes stage--
it's coming.

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Here is what I'm talking about; age
a picture worth 1,000 words

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