The Deep State Is In Panic Mode

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for fuksake
use your once working brain..
there is No deep state..
that is trumps paranoia and fear pushing speak..

Subject: Re: The Deep State Is In Panic Mode Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:19 pm

Temple wrote:: for fuksake
use your once working brain..
there is No deep state..
that is trumps paranoia and fear pushing speak..

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/06/776852841/the-man-who-popularized-the-deep-state-doesnt-like-the-way-its-used

Subject: Re: The Deep State Is In Panic Mode Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:19 pm

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Again-- wake up..
propaganda/conspiracies and trumps paranoia
is rotting your brain..

Subject: Re: The Deep State Is In Panic Mode Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:32 pm

Temple wrote:: Again-- wake up..
propaganda/conspiracies and trumps paranoia
is rotting your brain..

History lessons for you, Temple:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state

The modern concept of a deep state is associated with Turkey and the secret network established in 1923 by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. Similar ideas are older. The Greek language κράτος ἐν κράτει, (kratos en kratei) was later adopted into Latin as imperium in imperio or status in statu).

In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries political debate surrounding the separation of church and state often revolved around the perception that if left unchecked the Church might turn into a kind of State within a State, an illegitimate encroachment of the State's natural civil power.

In the field of political science, this pop culture concept is studied within the literature on the state. Current literature on the state generally traces a lineage to Bringing the State Back In (1985) and remains an active body of scholarly research to this day. Within this literature, the state is understood as both venue (a set of rules under which others act and interact) as well as actor (with its own agenda). An example of a non-conspiratorial version of the 'state as actor' from the empirical scholarly literature would be "doing truth to power" (as a play on speaking truth to power, which is what journalists often aspire to do) as studied by Todd La Porte. Under this dual understanding, the conspiratorial version of the deep state concept would be one version of the 'state as actor' while the non-conspiratorial version would be another version of the 'state as venue.'

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Obi--
IF there were a deep state
it would have taken trump out long ago
a deep state would never leave trump in the white house.
Any deep state against trump, would take him out
there a great many ways that can be done.

Subject: Re: The Deep State Is In Panic Mode Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:46 pm

Temple wrote:: Obi--
IF there were a deep state
it would have taken trump out long ago
a deep state would never leave trump in the white house.
Any deep state against trump, would take him out
there a great many ways that can be done.

They've been trying to since the day he was elected, you dumb ass.

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November 6, 2019
The Man Who Popularized The 'Deep State' Doesn't Like The Way It's Used

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Mike Lofgren is the very definition of a civil servant. He was a congressional staffer for 28 years, with most of that time spent crunching numbers on the Senate and House budget committees.

His basic point is that big institutions, inside and outside of government, are so entrenched it's hard to bring any real change. Political options are limited.

"This is not to say it's the worst of all worlds," Lofgren said. "You sort of get a choice between Coke and New Coke."

"It's like I released this species into the wild and what it did, or maybe it's a Frankenstein, and what it does is not within my control," he said.

The idea of a conspiratorial deep state goes back centuries. Some trace it to ancient Rome. In recent decades, it has been used to describe countries such as Turkey and Pakistan, where the security forces were seen as dictating orders to elected governments.

"I think it's a silly idea. There is no 'deep state.' What people think of as the 'deep state' is just the American civil service, social security, the people who fix the roads, health and human services, Medicare."

Mike Lofgren, now retired at age 66, used to be one of those people when he was a Republican congressional staffer. Today, he says he's turned his back on the Republican Party.

"I am an independent who will not vote Republican until they demonstrate to me that they've purged Trumpism and that they're a sane party," he said.

full'
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/06/776852841/the-man-who-popularized-the-deep-state-doesnt-like-the-way-its-used

Subject: Re: The Deep State Is In Panic Mode Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:03 pm

Temple wrote:: November 6, 2019
The Man Who Popularized The 'Deep State' Doesn't Like The Way It's Used

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{BIGGER SNIP}

OMG - you actually read a link I posted?!?!?!

lol!

I may be having a heart attack!!!!

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The Wise And Powerful wrote:

Temple wrote:: November 6, 2019
The Man Who Popularized The 'Deep State' Doesn't Like The Way It's Used

{snip}

{BIGGER SNIP}

OMG - you actually read a link I posted?!?!?!

lol!

I may be having a heart attack!!!!

yes! amazing!
Just one-
the URL seemed interesting
and I gave a helluva comeback,
so worth it..
you should have given me a= omg

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