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Subject: Supreme Court strikes down Evers' order Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:47 pm
Supreme Court strikes down Evers' order TMJ4 News • Apr 6, 2020
The election will go on Tuesday after the supreme court overturned Wisconsin's Governor Evers' executive order.
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Subject: Re: Supreme Court strikes down Evers' order Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:18 pm
That is insane and putting peoples lives in risk just so republicans can (hopefully) elect their coveted WI Supreme court justice.. by counting on trump supporters, that watch Fox and don't take Covid19 seriously.
It well may backfire on them..
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Subject: Re: Supreme Court strikes down Evers' order Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:22 pm
Temple wrote:
That is insane and putting peoples lives in risk just so republicans can (hopefully) elect their coveted WI Supreme court justice.. by counting on trump supporters, that watch Fox and don't take Covid19 seriously.
It well may backfire on them..
You think only liberal voters will shelter in place, or don't they care who their candidate is???
ps: Supreme court justices are not elected.
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Subject: Re: Supreme Court strikes down Evers' order Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:28 pm
Justice Ginsburg sends out dire warning about the new Supreme Court ruling in Wisconsin election case
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg issued a disturbing dissent on Monday as the conservative majority of the WI. U.S. Supreme Court intervened in Tuesday’s upcoming Wisconsin election with a move she warned could result in “massive disenfranchisement.”
The election, which includes the Democratic presidential primary, a Wisconsin Supreme Court race, and a raft of other local campaigns, has become embroiled in controversy as observers warn the coronavirus pandemic threatens the safety and integrity of the election.
While Democratic Gov. Tony Evers has pushed to delay the election until June in light of the pandemic, the Republican-dominated legislature has refused to act, apparently believing the chaos caused by the crisis will depress turnout and benefit the GOP.
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Subject: Re: Supreme Court strikes down Evers' order Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:32 pm
Liberal Ginsburg was out voted. Too fucking bad.
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Subject: Re: Supreme Court strikes down Evers' order Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:36 pm
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Subject: Re: Supreme Court strikes down Evers' order Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:55 pm
Published 1 hour ago Wisconsin and the problem of too much democracy By Chris Stirewalt | Fox News
WISCONSIN AND THE PROBLEM OF TOO MUCH DEMOCRACY
Wisconsin has all the ingredients to be in the club of prosperous, healthy, educated, well-run states – except a political system that works.
There’s no excusing the Badger State’s bungle of today’s primary election. Leaders have managed to get the worst of both worlds for their constituents: A significant public health risk and the disenfranchisement of many voters.
The state’s dysfunction is so profound that it’s once again drawing the rest of the country into its bedlam.
You have the president of the United States, who holds daily announcements urging people to stay home and exercise extreme caution as the coronavirus danger intensifies, telling his supporters in Wisconsin to… get out and vote.
The same for the president’s likely opponent in the fall, Joe Biden, who acknowledges that it may not be safe to hold a convention in Wisconsin in August that it’s safe to go vote for him today, a week before the state is expecting peak infection rates.
Wisconsin has gotten so bad at basic governance that it needed a late-night intervention from the U.S. Supreme Court on the eve of the vote – like the condemned seeking an 11th-hour stay of execution – just to know what would actually happen.
The court’s decision overturned both a lower-court order last week extending the window for absentee ballots to be returned in addition to the state governor’s emergency order postponing in-person voting until June. Imagine being a voter trying to follow those twists and turns.
The result is a highly predictable debacle: With 50,000 voters expected in Milwaukee crammed into just five polling places, the lines and the waits – and the potential contagion – have been bad.
Somehow, all of the 21 other states from Oregon to Rhode Island that hadn’t had their primaries before the coronavirus outbreak intensified have managed to address the matter, but not the fine folks of America’s Dairyland. It’s a great state in so many ways, so why does it have such awful politics?
While there may not be an excuse for Wisconsin’s incapacity, there is an explanation.
For more than a decade, the Badger State has been the political equivalent of the little Belgian city of Ypres, which witnessed more than a million combined casualties in five battles over four years during the First World War.
Three of the past five presidential elections in Wisconsin have been decided by less than a single percentage point. Over the same period, there have been a series of brutalizing gubernatorial elections, including a 2012 recall election aimed at removing the sitting governor. There have been mass demonstrations and government worker walkouts.
One time – we swear this actually happened – more than a dozen members of Wisconsin’s senate fled the state and hid out to prevent a vote at the capitol in Madison.
The struggles have been intense, highly personal and utterly exhausting. Given Wisconsin’s status as a swing state with 10 electoral votes and a history of competitive U.S. Senate races, outside money and attention amplifies the domestic disharmony.
But again, other narrowly divided states don’t have all of Wisconsin’s problems. Neighboring Minnesota holds elections and conducts state business without these problems. Its fellow 2016 Midwestern presidential upset states, Pennsylvania and Michigan, don’t have Republicans and Democrats engaging in this kind of savagery amid a pandemic. Even Florida manages to operate with some bipartisan brio.
It’s not that there’s something wrong with Wisconsinites. In fact, in many key metrics educational, cultural and economic, Wisconsin does quite well.
The problem is too much democracy.
The state’s real political roots are populist. Wisconsin was George Wallace’s first breakthrough state in the north, perhaps not surprising in 1964 given the great success his fellow culture warrior Sen. Joe McCarthy had there. On the left side, there’s been lots of radical economic populism, including Robert La Follett, whose home state was the only one to back his Progressive Party candidacy in 1924.
What the right-wing and left-wing populists of Wisconsin tended to agree on, however, was that more elections and more direct democracy are good things.
One of the reasons Wisconsin is in this pickle today is that there are so many positions and issues that must be decided by voters. Milwaukee, for example, asks voters to choose both a chief financial officer and a treasurer. Like that can’t be streamlined somehow?
A longtime populist favorite has to do with the election and removal of judges. Wisconsin voters have to pick not just local judges, but judges for its appellate court and Supreme Court. And if voters decide they don’t like the way a judge is ruling, they can collect signatures and recall them.
The same goes for governors, as mentioned above, but also members of the state legislature.
For most Americans, an election every two years is more than enough to sort things out. But Wisconsin barely gets its votes counted before the recall petitions start circulating. Add in the state’s permissive structure for getting referenda on the ballot, and you have a Mobius strip of campaigns and elections.
That means that rather than figuring out how to cooperate on the basics for those modest intervals, the losing side just draws up its next battle plan for sticking it to the other side.
Politics is a great way to resolve disputes, and regular, fair and open elections with strong protections for voter enfranchisement are a great way to orient your politics.
But Lordy day, the elections aren’t the point. Good government is.
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Subject: Re: Supreme Court strikes down Evers' order Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:02 am
Subject: Re: Supreme Court strikes down Evers' order Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:02 am
Temple wrote:
That is insane and putting peoples lives in risk just so republicans can (hopefully) elect their coveted WI Supreme court justice.. by counting on trump supporters, that watch Fox and don't take Covid19 seriously.
It well may backfire on them..
explain to me why the dems in Wisconsin REFUSED to follow state law and purge the dead and moved from the voter roles ? Explain to me why they wanted absentee balloting WITHOUT ANY ID REQUIRMENT. Explain to me why it's safe to go to the liquor store, grocery store, gun store, gas station but it's unsafe to vote ?
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Subject: Re: Supreme Court strikes down Evers' order Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:49 pm
Three tubs of ballots discovered in mail processing center after polls closed in Wisconsin Patrick Marley, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel 1 day ago
MADISON - Three tubs of ballots for Oshkosh and Appleton have been discovered at a mail processing center in Milwaukee, according to the Wisconsin Elections Commission and a state senator. . The discovery emerges as would-be voters across the state express a host of frustrations about absentee ballots they tried to avoid going to the polls amid the coronavirus pandemic. Many have said ballots they requested long ago did not arrive by Tuesday, the deadline for getting their ballots postmarked.