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Subject: Another School Shooting (Texas) Tue May 24, 2022 6:44 pm
No mention of race for this one ..shooter looks to be hispanic, maybe that's why .. He's not white .. No mention of the race of the 18 dead (and more injured) grade school kids and a teacher either
...Is it still a hate crime? .. Certainly hateful enough
oliver clotheshoffe Regular Member
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Subject: Re: Another School Shooting (Texas) Tue May 24, 2022 8:59 pm
This kid is 18 years old... the guy that shot up the grocery store is 18 years old... what the hell is wrong with kids these days... I can't help but notice there's no mention of of his parents anywhere in the press... he was living with his grandma (who he killed before going to the school)... my guess is he grew up with an X-Box for a father... kid was a cross-dresser too, dunno if that had anything to do with it.
Grackle
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Subject: Re: Another School Shooting (Texas) Tue May 24, 2022 10:11 pm
I guess i was looking into it too soon after the shooting to get as many details .. I didn't know he killed his grandmother .. The mother or both parents probably pushed the kid off on her .... I note the race of the shooter and the victims because it will determine the narrative of the democrat's media and if it'll be pushed to the forefront or the background of the news .. But i suggest they'll be on guns big time after 2 shootings in about a week
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Subject: Re: Another School Shooting (Texas) Tue May 24, 2022 10:38 pm
Death toll keeps rising.
On May 24, 2022, 18-year-old Salvador Rolando Ramos opened fire at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, United States, killing 21 people. Earlier that day, Ramos shot and wounded his grandmother. Of the people fatally shot, 19 were children and two were adults, and several other children were wounded
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Subject: Re: Another School Shooting (Texas) Wed May 25, 2022 12:50 pm
Beto O'Rourke interrupts Texas Gov. Abbott at Uvalde news conference: 'You are doing nothing' May 25, 2022
Former Rep. Beto O'Rourke, D-Texas, interrupted a press conference from Texas Gov. Greg Abbott about the Uvalde shooting Wednesday, shouting at the current governor before being escorted from the auditorium.
oliver clotheshoffe Regular Member
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Subject: Re: Another School Shooting (Texas) Wed May 25, 2022 1:10 pm
Where did this kid get the money for 5k worth of guns not to mention the 70k truck he was driving? I doubt he ever held a job in his life.
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Subject: Re: Another School Shooting (Texas) Thu May 26, 2022 5:52 pm
5-26-2022
Why 18-year-olds in Texas can buy AR-15s but not handguns.
The fact that the gunman responsible for this week’s massacre in Uvalde, Texas, was able to buy two AR-15s days after his 18th birthday highlights how much easier it is for Americans to purchase rifles than handguns.
Under federal law, Americans buying handguns from licensed dealers must be at least 21, which would have precluded Salvador Ramos from buying that type of weapon. That trumps Texas law, which only requires buyers of any type of firearm to be 18 or older.
Following Tuesday’s massacre at Robb Elementary School, which killed 19 children and two adults, a growing number of lawmakers in Texas and beyond are calling for the minimum age to purchase assault rifles to be raised to 21 from 18. Doing so would require undoing nearly two centuries of more permissive regulations on so-called long guns.
“It’s something that could happen at either the state or federal level, but I don’t see movement on either front,” said Sandra Guerra Thompson, a criminal law professor at the University of Houston Law Center.
Only six states — Florida, Washington, Vermont, California, Illinois and Hawaii — have increased the minimum purchase age for long guns to 21, according to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. The majority did so following the 2018 massacre in Parkland, Florida, where a then-19-year-old assailant killed 17 people at a high school.
Several states have since faced legal challenges.
The National Rifle Association sought to repeal the Florida law.
“The ban infringes the right of all 18-to-20-year-olds to purchase firearms for the exercise of their Second Amendment rights, even for self-defense in the home,” the NRA argued in a court filing, according to the South Florida Sun Sentinel. “The ban does not just limit the right, it obliterates it.”
Government attorneys, however, argued that because “18-to-20-year-olds are uniquely likely to engage in impulsive, emotional, and risky behaviors that offer immediate or short-term rewards, drawing the line for legal purchase of firearms at 21 is a reasonable method of addressing the Legislature’s public safety concerns.”
A federal judge upheld the law last year; the NRA is appealing.
A U.S. Court of Appeals recently ruled that California’s version of the law was unconstitutional, though it did uphold a provision that requires adults under 21 to obtain a hunting license before buying a rifle or shotgun.
After the shooting in Uvalde this week, lawmakers in New York and Utah also called on their states to raise the age limit for long gun purchases to 21. U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein introduced federal legislation earlier this month — less than a week before the Uvalde shooting — that would raise the minimum age to purchase assault weapons to 21 from 18; the California Democrat said in a statement that it was in response to a shooting that killed 10 people at a Buffalo supermarket. That gunman also was 18 years old.
“It makes no sense that it’s illegal for someone under 21 to buy a handgun or even a beer, yet can legally buy an assault weapon,” she said.
Lindsay Nichols, federal policy director at the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, said that increasing the age requirement at the federal level may be more effective because federal authorities can inspect and discipline licensed firearm sellers.
“State authorities often don’t have a system in place for enforcing the laws governing” licensed dealers, Nichols said.
In the hours after the shooting in Uvalde, there was some confusion about what types of firearms Ramos had used. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott initially said that Ramos had a handgun and possibly a rifle. That prompted some to speculate that Ramos had been able to get hold of the weapons more easily because of recent changes to the gun laws in Texas, including a bill passed last year that allows Texans to carry handguns without a permit or training. But those early reports turned out to be inaccurate.
After it became clear that the weapon used was a rifle, Texas Democrats questioned why Ramos was able to purchase one at the age of 18.
“Why do we accept a government that allows an 18 year old to buy an assault rifle, but not tobacco products?” state Rep. Nicole Collier, a Fort Worth Democrat who chairs the Texas Legislative Black Caucus, said in a statement. “The hypocrisy of government is deafening. We can develop gun policy that does not infringe upon one’s constitutional right, while preserving and protecting life; that’s called multitasking and we can do that.”
State Rep. Jarvis Johnson, a Houston Democrat, called on Abbott to convene a special session of the Legislature so lawmakers could “pass real gun reforms,” including raising the minimum age to purchase long guns.
Such a move would reverse a decades-old Texas system that treats handguns differently from long guns, which have long been exempted from state rules on open carry.
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Subject: Re: Another School Shooting (Texas) Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: Another School Shooting (Texas) Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:37 pm
Stupid, gun-obsessed Americans who sacrifice tens of thousands of lives each year for your sacred right to own military weapons.
Grackle
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Subject: Re: Another School Shooting (Texas) Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:49 pm
Dark Poppy wrote:
Stupid, gun-obsessed Americans who sacrifice tens of thousands of lives each year for your sacred right to own military weapons.
It's not an obsession, it's our 2nd amendment *right* as you mentioned ..and if snivelling left wingnuts like you have your way the citizens would be completely disarmed ...
Read up on what happens when a government disarms its population, because I'm not gonna waste my time filling you in on the issue
oliver clotheshoffe Regular Member
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Subject: Re: Another School Shooting (Texas) Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:56 am
Dark Poppy wrote:
Stupid, gun-obsessed Americans who sacrifice tens of thousands of lives each year for your sacred right to own military weapons.
Hi Lotus!
Dark Poppy Regular Member
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Subject: Re: Another School Shooting (Texas) Fri Jun 03, 2022 2:36 pm
Grackle wrote:
Dark Poppy wrote:
Stupid, gun-obsessed Americans who sacrifice tens of thousands of lives each year for your sacred right to own military weapons.
It's not an obsession, it's our 2nd amendment *right* as you mentioned ..and if snivelling left wingnuts like you have your way the citizens would be completely disarmed ...
Read up on what happens when a government disarms its population, because I'm not gonna waste my time filling you in on the issue
You're such a fearful little boy. Living in constant terror that the government you elected will round you up and take you to the secret FEMA camps.
No one in Japan is unhappy because people can't buy assault firearms or afraid that we'll all be defenseless if Godzilla emerges out of the sea and starts rampaging through Tokyo.
oliver clotheshoffe Regular Member
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Subject: Re: Another School Shooting (Texas) Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:45 pm
Dark Poppy wrote:
No one in Japan is unhappy because people can't buy assault firearms or afraid that we'll all be defenseless if Godzilla emerges out of the sea and starts rampaging through Tokyo.
Oh, Japan, where nobody is allowed into unless they're Japanese, right?
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Subject: Re: Another School Shooting (Texas) Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:40 pm
oliver clotheshoffe wrote:
Dark Poppy wrote:
No one in Japan is unhappy because people can't buy assault firearms or afraid that we'll all be defenseless if Godzilla emerges out of the sea and starts rampaging through Tokyo.
Oh, Japan, where nobody is allowed into unless they're Japanese, right?
Non sequitur, typical.
oliver clotheshoffe Regular Member
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Subject: Re: Another School Shooting (Texas) Sat Jun 04, 2022 7:15 pm
Dark Poppy wrote:
oliver clotheshoffe wrote:
Dark Poppy wrote:
No one in Japan is unhappy because people can't buy assault firearms or afraid that we'll all be defenseless if Godzilla emerges out of the sea and starts rampaging through Tokyo.
Oh, Japan, where nobody is allowed into unless they're Japanese, right?
Non sequitur, typical.
Lotus evasion, typical.
Besides how do you know they're not unhappy, do you go ask them?