Trump's Wall Is NOT Working.. We're Paying For His Folly ..

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Smuggling gangs in Mexico have been able to breach new sections of President Donald Trump's border wall in recent months, according to a new report from The Washington Post.

Citing US agents and officials with knowledge of the damage, the Post reported that smugglers have been using reciprocating saws to cut through the steel and concrete portions of the wall, creating openings wide enough for people and drugs to be smuggled through.
The agents told the Post the saws can cut through the bollards in a matter of minutes. Engineers told the newspaper that because of the height of the bollards, which are between 18 to 30 feet tall, it's easier to push the steel out of the way to pass through the other side.

When a breach is detected, a welding crew is sent to fix the opening, the newspaper reported.
Smugglers also attempt to hide a breach in the barrier, by returning the cut in the bollard to its original position or using a putty that looks like the hole has been fixed, so that they can keep using that opening, according to the Post.

Agents told the newspaper that despite fixing and welding the damaged bollards, smugglers still return to the same spot because the metal and the concrete at the bollards' cores have already been weakened.
The Post reported that some of the damage has occurred in parts where electronic sensors that detect sawing vibrations have not yet been installed.
Smugglers also deploy makeshift ladders to climb up and over the barriers in the San Diego area, and then use hooks to hang rope ladders on the other side, according to the Post.

Trump's signature campaign promise was building the wall on the US-Mexico and having Mexico pay for it.
On a visit to a site in San Diego in September, Trump touted the wall, saying it's "virtually impenetrable."
So far, US taxpayers have been footing the bill for efforts to build new physical barriers at the southern border.

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It's funny how Temple uses the subject lines for his own ~original~ Trump bashing, then ya open the post and it's another copy and pasted article from some liberal rag or another ... Same shit, different day ...Orange Man Bad

What happened to the ehem "walls" built during the Obama admin? ..they're all a worthless piece-a-shit ...fukkers driving vehicles, trucks across the border ...millions of migrants just lope on through ..Trump builds a bigger better one after 2 years of screeching from dems, then the first buncha sneaky bastids gets through it and the outrage begins

They probably didn't have a chance yet to install cameras and lighting ...They should electrify the fuk'n thing

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Trump's signature campaign promise was building the wall on the US-Mexico and having Mexico pay for it.

Democrats fought tooth and nail for 2 years against every attempt he made to fund it ...otherwise it probably woulda been finished by now ...as for Mexico paying for it .. they've done 100% more than the democrats to prevent the illegal mass migration into the U.S. ... you have a price on that?

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So far, US taxpayers have been footing the bill for efforts to build new physical barriers at the southern border.

Taxpayers are footing a much larger bill supporting the millions of illegal migrants in their country, which the democrats are promoting ...Get a price on that too

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trumps wall is a folly..
Mexico is Not paying for it, we are.
His wall has failed, its business, as usual, his wall isn't stopping anything.
and that is what it is, plain and simple.
no excuses needed- the wall is a fail ..

The wall IS working, cuz the apprehensions are way down. While a few people might slip through, thousands aren't able to.

On another note:

Elsewhere, Louie wrote:: Another promise kept

https://www.yahoo.com/news/thanks-to-trump-the-us-hasnt-admitted-a-single-refugee-since-september-001006863.html

The press is throwing shade on this so it has to be a good move.
Thanks Trump

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Smuggling gangs in Mexico have been able to breach new sections of President Donald Trump's border wall in recent months, according to a new report from The Washington Post.

So they were apprehended? ...If not, how do they know it was breached by "smuggling gangs"? .. Maybe it was just a guy with a sawz-all

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The agents told the Post the saws can cut through the bollards in a matter of minutes.

Bullshit ...How many minutes? ...60? ...120? .. Say they need to cut 3 columns to get through, allegedly with their smuggled whatever .. they'd need to make 6 cuts .. There would be no electricity available so they'd be using battery powered saws ...to cut through steel and concrete they'd need dozens of new blades because they'd dull immediately in those materials ...they'd also need as many batteries because the strain on the saw would wear them down in no time

I've cut steel car frames, trailer frames, most things imaginable with *electric* sawz-alls, which are much more aggressive and powerful than battery powered saws, and the blades dull, bend, and need to be replaced constantly, not to mention binding with any pressure on the site of the cut, which is inevitable cutting vertical columns with all that weight ...and the task is not a quiet one by any means ...it'd be heard a mile away
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The Post reported that some of the damage has occurred in parts where electronic sensors that detect sawing vibrations have not yet been installed.

Like I said, it's not even finished yet

Walls are not obsolete as the left has tried to claim ...men have been building walls for centuries ..they have an obvious purpose which apparently has escaped the mindless minions of the left ...nor do walls represent some kinda "immorality" which is just another stupid talking point for them

I noticed too, -that before there was any wall, all these illegals strolling across the border were called "family units" ... but now that they're breaching a wall they're "smuggling gangs" ... What changed?

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This contradicts the 2 year claim from the left that the smuggling is all done primarily through the ports of entry and any smuggling between them is insignificant and not worth the attempts to prevent it .... Now that a wall is being built there are suddenly smuggling gangs breaching it, as if they changed strategy and decided instead to go through a fuk'n wall that was never there before

A few short weeks ago Temple was slobbering that there was no wall being built .. Now he's posting to criticize the wall that he claimed wasn't being built ...They're constantly moving the goal posts and Trump keeps scoring anyway ...ha

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Trump touted the wall, saying it's "virtually impenetrable."
it is far from being 'impenetrable.
and- Mexico has not paid for the wall
it was and is trumps folly.

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Temple wrote:

Trump touted the wall, saying it's "virtually impenetrable."
it is far from being 'impenetrable.

I thought ya said there was no wall? ...I guess he underestimated the desperation of them bastids, eh? ...At least they're not driving trucks fulla shit like before, which you also claimed wasn't happening ..

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and- Mexico has not paid for the wall

Mexico has thousands of troops preventing the migrants from getting to our border .. a lotta them have been hurt in the process ...Is that worth nothing to you people? ... You fukkers complained about the "cost" of having our own military protecting the border, and liberal state officials ordered the National Guards outta there ...Then they complained they needed help with the overwhelming migrants in their border states ...ha ... Mexico is also holding the migrants while their asylum claims are processed ..I guess that's worth nothing either

Mexico has done more for the U.S. in the past several months than democrats have done for years ...In the past 3 years they've done absolutely nothing but obstruct, investigate, and complain about Trump ...How much you think it's cost taxpayers for that? ... Keep complaining about the wall ...the whining and sniveling about Mexico not paying for it is laughable .. The building will continue ...that's another *fact* for ya

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I never said there was no wall.
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Mexico could have a million troops preventing the migrants from crossing
the fact is; Mexico is Not $ paying for the wall, we are.

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Temple wrote:: I never said there was no wall.

^That is an outright, blatant LIE

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Grackle wrote:

Temple wrote:: I never said there was no wall.

^That is an outright, blatant LIE

Porve it ..

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Temple wrote:

Grackle wrote:

Temple wrote:: I never said there was no wall.

^That is an outright, blatant LIE

Porve it ..

Not worth my time to try to find it ...You and I both know you said it .. I guess it's up to the readers to determine you lied

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Grackle wrote:

Temple wrote:

Grackle wrote:

Temple wrote:: I never said there was no wall.

^That is an outright, blatant LIE

Porve it ..

Not worth my time to try to find it ...You and I both know you said it .. I guess it's up to the readers to determine you lied

I never said it..
you not being able to prove it, is proof, I never said it,

Published 14 mins ago
White House to set up cameras to livestream border wall construction: report
By Danielle Wallace | Fox News

President Trump’s senior adviser Jared Kushner and other White House officials are planning to set up web cameras to livestream construction along the border wall, according to a report.

Kushner first offered the proposal during a July meeting, pitching the idea as a way to confront criticism that Trump has not followed through on his signature 2016 campaign promise, The Washington Post reported, citing unnamed officials

U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and senior U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials have told Kushner they’re opposed to the initiative because certain construction contractors do not want their proprietary techniques shown to competitors, the sources told the Post.

Trump reportedly asked Kushner to reinvent messaging and communication about the border wall project after the government shutdown last year. The current website for the CBP shows information about construction along the border, but a new site, currently being designing by Trump administration’s chief digital officer Ory Rinat, will reportedly incorporate the live camera feeds, allowing the public to visibly track the wall’s progress.

Under the Trump administration, 81 miles of border wall, most of which was built as "replacement" barrier to reinforce older fencing, has been completed. The new barriers built of steel bollards stand anywhere from 18 to 30 feet tall.

An additional 155 miles of border fencing is currently under construction. And 273 miles are under “preconstruction,” according to the most recent CBP data. The Trump administration aims to complete a total of 400 to 500 miles of border wall to complete the project. The project has been facing delays as officials work to acquire privately held land in Texas along the U.S.-Mexico border. It has cost taxpayers $10 million to date, the Post reported.

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27 September 2019

''A total of 57 miles of replacement barrier and nine miles of new secondary barrier have been constructed - a total of 66 miles.

However, no "new wall" - any extension to existing structures - has yet been completed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46824649

August 30th, 2019
Before Trump became president, 654 miles of the nearly 2,000-mile U.S. Mexico border had primary barriers. As of today, that hasn’t increased.

To date, the administration has replaced about 60 miles of dilapidated barriers with new fencing. And a major component of Trump’s pledge — that Mexico would pay for the wall — hasn’t been part of the equation.
U.S. taxpayers have paid the cost.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/aug/30/donald-trumps-border-wall-how-much-has-really-been/

Some Valley activists believe that much of what’s going on is simply political theater. Scott Nicol, co-chairman of the Sierra Club Borderlands Campaign, told me on Friday, “It looks like they are trying to throw something up quickly so they can demonstrate to President Trump that there’s action. But this is not part of any rational (construction) strategy.
They’re not going to be able to build a whole lot more in the short term because they don’t own the land.”

''I will build a great wall and I'll have Mexico pay for that wall."

Temple, why do you post six to ten week old shit when I posted stuff about the wall that was only 14 minutes old???

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The Wise And Powerful wrote:: Temple, why do you post six to ten week old shit when I posted stuff about the wall that was only 14 minutes old???

That couple of months old stuff still stands..
he ain't built anything (he's repaired)
and Mexico ain't paying it..
As of Nov he's now making a show about building New wall..
It's been 3ish fukin years, he's taken money from the military and yet he ain't done shit.
As is said,, He's not going far, the land is not government land, its not his.
there are problems ahead, big ones.

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Earlier in this same thread I wrote

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I thought ya said there was no wall?

Temple, forgetting his claim in another thread (prolly several pages back) that there's no wall being built, sez

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I never said there was no wall.

His actual claim was that there's been no building of a wall ..or Trump hasn't built any wall ...some shit ...so I wrote;

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^That is an outright, blatant LIE

Temple, in large, bold text responds with

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Porve it ..

Aware of his mindlessness, I figured he meant "Prove it" .. Not willing to go on an all out search through threads in the back pages of the forum, I didn't bother ....but he recently writes here

Temple wrote:

he ain't built anything (he's repaired)

Again claiming there's no wall built ... There's essentially nothing to repair ...rusted old corrugated tin panels or wood posts ...they were driving trucks across from Mexico

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As of Nov he's now making a show about building New wall..

New wall has been under construction for months, as funds became available

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It's been 3ish fukin years, he's taken money from the military and yet he ain't done shit.

Once Again he claims there's been no wall built

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As is said,, He's not going far, the land is not government land, its not his.

He must think that all roads, highways, infrastructures have only been built on government land ... The government can expropriate any land they need to build whatever they want ...Even cities and townships can do that

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Some Valley activists believe that much of what’s going on is simply political theater. Scott Nicol, co-chairman of the Sierra Club Borderlands Campaign, told me on Friday, “It looks like they are trying to throw something up quickly so they can demonstrate to President Trump that there’s action. But this is not part of any rational (construction) strategy.
They’re not going to be able to build a whole lot more in the short term because they don’t own the land.”

''I will build a great wall and I'll have Mexico pay for that wall."

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Sierra Club activists...

No one cares what they think.

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The Wise And Powerful wrote:: Temple, why do you post six to ten week old shit when I posted stuff about the wall that was only 14 minutes old???

Temple thinks anything he doesn't know about isn't real ... The MSN doesn't mention the wall being built so of course he doesn't know about it, so it's not real to him .. He'll ignore any videos or articles posted when they don't align with his leftist Orange Man Bad narrative, and rehash, repost, and mull over the same shit as if it proves his deranged views are right ...any others are wrong .. propaganda ...right wing conspiracy theories, whatever

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