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Subject: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:14 am
Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Daily Caller | December 24, 2019 | 10:30 AM ET
As if Virginia's Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam’s wholesale attack on law-abiding gun owners wasn’t enough, the disgraced public official and his Michael Bloomberg-bought allies in the General Assembly now want the state’s hard-working taxpayers to foot the bill for their unconstitutional schemes. The budget bill (HB30) includes an appropriation of a quarter million dollars to carry out a host of gun control measures that Northam and his anti-gun allies hope to enact.
The $250,000 is appropriated to the Corrections Special Reserve Fund in order to provide for the “increase in the operating cost of adult correctional facilities resulting from the enactment” of Northam’s gun control measures. Among the enumerated laws that this allocation is meant to fund is a ban on commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms, the criminalization of private firearms transfers, and gun confiscation orders issued without due process.
Aside from the insult of forcing law-abiding Virginia taxpayers to pay for the diminution of their rights, the gun control allocation is a severe waste of resources. Northam’s Bloomberg-backed gun control measures will not make Virginia safer.
In additional to being unconstitutional, a ban on commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms will not reduce violent crime.
Long guns of any description are rarely used in violent crime. FBI Uniform Crime Reporting data breaks down homicides by weapon type. In 2018, the FBI reported that there were five times as many individuals listed as killed with “knives or cutting instruments,” than with rifles of any kind. The data also showed that rifles were listed as being used in less homicides than “blunt objects (clubs, hammers, etc.)” or “personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.).”
A 1997 Department of Justice-funded study of the 1994 federal “assault weapons” ban determined that “At best, the assault weapons ban can have only a limited effect on total gun murders, because the banned weapons and magazines were never involved in more than a modest fraction of all gun murders.” A 2004 follow-up Department of Justice-funded study came to a similar conclusion. The study determined that “AWs [assault weapons] and LCMs [large capacity magazines] were used in only a minority of gun crimes prior to the 1994 federal ban,” “relatively few attacks involve more than 10 shots fired,” and “the ban’s effects on gun violence are likely to be small at best and perhaps too small for reliable measurement.”
So-called “universal” background checks do not stop criminals from obtaining firearms.
Background checks don’t stop criminals from stealing firearms, getting them on the black market, or getting them from straw purchasers. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, 75 percent of criminals in state and federal state prison who had possessed a firearm during their offense acquired the firearm through theft, “Off the street/underground market,” or “from a family member or friend, or as a gift.” Less than one percent got firearms from dealers or non-dealers at gun shows. ATF has reported, “[t]he most frequent type of trafficking channel identified in ATF investigations is straw purchasing from federally licensed firearms dealers.”
This year, researchers at the Bloomberg School of Public Health and the UC Davis School of Medicine found that comprehensive background checks and prohibitions based on violent misdemeanors “were not associated with changes in firearm suicide or homicide.”
Aside from enabling the unacceptable deprivation of constitutional rights without due process, an Extreme Risk Protection Order (Red Flag) law is unnecessary in Virginia because the state already has strong and effective civil commitment laws.
Under Virginia law, a law enforcement officer may take an individual into emergency custody for a mental health evaluation without prior court approval. A person detained in this manner is then evaluated to determine whether they meet the criteria for a temporary detention. A person that was subject to a temporary detention order and subsequently agreed to voluntary admission to a mental health facility is prohibited from possessing firearms until their rights are restored by a court.
Tax-paying Virginians should not have to foot the bill for Northam and Bloomberg’s radical attack on their fundamental rights.
Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:20 am
Coonman needs to be thrown out of office
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:08 pm
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:34 pm
The Wise And Powerful wrote:
Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners .
Good for him but it will never happen the constitution would need to be rewritten.
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:51 pm
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Good for him
It figures you'd champion some regressive jackass tryin' to strip people of their rights
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but it will never happen the constitution would need to be rewritten.
You obviously haven't paid attention .. Democrats don't give a shit about the constitution
Northam is poking a beehive in Va .. People are gonna get killed if he keeps it up .. [/b]
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:03 pm
Virginia is like a "toe in the water" ...if his gun grabs are successful (which I hafta doubt) other democrat run states will jump in ... Northam has dropped the democrat's pretense of just wanting "common sense gun laws" and is gonna go for confiscations ... People are coming from other states and forming armed militias .. Dems just can't leave it alone ...
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:21 am
Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:11 pm
Should have expected this
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Virginia Governor Ralph Northam declared a state of emergency in Virginia from January 17-21, amid plans by pro-gun groups to hold a rally at the Capitol on January 20. Watch a portion of Northam's press conference.
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:04 am
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:49 am
Looks like the control freak liberals are begging for another civil war.
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:11 pm
Stevie Wonder can see where Northam and the left are going with this .. They'll keep throwing Charlottsville out there and then they'll cry *White Supremacists* and add identity politics and racial shit into the narrative
It shouldn't be a surprise that a large scale protest is planned after his bullshit ..it's likely there'll be plenty more .. So what's it matter if people are coming from "outside the commonwealth"? ..He can't keep people outta Va
There's a chance of violence, rioting, and protesters being armed at any large protest .. This sniveling bastid isn't special ..He created this left wingnut, commie bullshit, now he can deal with it ..Protesting is another right I can see that weak-kneed POS try to take away .. Send cops out to beat people up then complain about the violence and try to shut down future protests ..If antifa shows up the violence is inevitable
He and the media will spin the narrative into->gun owners are violent white supremacists and disarming them is the only way to stop the madness ..heh .. It will save lives ...children's lives ..Throw in some rhetoric about the constitution, saving democracy ...get the wingnut outrage mob triggered by it all .. Gun owners are transphobic! .....They Raysiss! ...haha
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:28 am
West Virginia Resolution Invites All Pro-2A Counties In Virginia To Secede And Join Them ByWilliam Addisonon, January 15, 2020
In recent months, numerous counties in Virginia have become incensed over the proposition of a half-dozen strong gun-control measures.
In retaliation, nearly 100 counties in the state passed legislation deeming their jurisdiction a “Second Amendment sanctuary,” free from gun-control measures taken up in the state legislature.
However, things got even more interesting as a West Virginia resolution was introduced on Tuesday that invited these very counties to effectively secede from Virginia and become a part of the Mountain State.
“Providing for an election to be had, pending approval of the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginia, and a majority of qualified citizens voting upon the proposition prior to August 1, 2020, for the admission of certain counties and independent cities of the Commonwealth of Virginia to be admitted to the State of West Virginia as constituent counties, under the provisions of Article VI, Section 11 of the Constitution of West Virginia,” read the resolution, submitted by 26 delegates.
Later in the resolution, it mentioned that if certain counties or cities decided to part from Virginia over the gun control matter, West Virginia residents would vote whether or not to adopt that county in the next election.
Take a look:
That the question of admission, or, the rejection of such admission, of any county or independent city of the Commonwealth of Virginia desiring admission to the State of West Virginia, and a majority of whose qualified voters, voting on the question, have approved such measure, prior to August 1, 2020, shall be submitted to the voters of the State of West Virginia at the next general election to be held in the year 2020.
Such proposal shall be placed upon the general election ballot in the following form: “Shall the following county (or independent city) _____________ (name), currently a constituent part of the Commonwealth of Virginia, be admitted to the State of West Virginia as a constituent county of the State of West Virginia.
The resolution spoke out harshly against the latest gun-control measures, saying Virginia has deviated from the founders. They cited Patrick Henry’s comments at the Virginia Ratifying Convention, in which he said, “The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.”
Virginia continues to move forward with its gun-control legislation, with greater background check requirements, the addition of red flag laws, and mandating that citizens can only purchase one gun per month.
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:01 am
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:04 pm
Three more alleged neo-Nazis connected to a white-nationalist group planning to have members at a Monday gun-rights rally in Virginia are reported to have been arrested.
The three Georgia men, who are suspected of participating in a criminal street gang associated with a hate group known as The Base, were arrested on several charges, including conspiracy to commit murder, the Rome News-Tribune reports.
The three men are Luke Austin, Michael Helterbrand, and Jacob Kaderli of Dacula, the paper reports. While details of their charges remain under seal, the trio’s arrest came a day before three other suspected members of The Base were picked up in Maryland on a variety of gun charges, including possession of a home-made machine gun.
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:11 pm
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Three more alleged neo-Nazis connected to a white-nationalist group planning to have members at a Monday gun-rights rally in Virginia are reported to have been arrested.
... The FBI could find 3 criminals planning to go to Burger King ..How many antifa stooges are "planning" to be at the rally? ..They'd as soon cause violence and/or assaults as anyone else
This is media fodder and only proves what I predicted in my prior post ..
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He and the media will spin the narrative into->gun owners are violent white supremacists
Thanks for your help in proving me correct, Gomer ... You're obviously a contrary fukwit and your views and opinions are based on whatever the media dictates them to be ...You're in for a rude awakening some day
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:44 pm
The left is predictable if nothing else .. If ya might wonder what their views are on anything just refer to the media
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:41 pm
Crisis actors .. When there's not a crisis they'll stage one and hire these crisis actors to pretend they were victims or witnesses to an alleged crisis ... Sometimes you'll see the same ones in different states ... I remember one incident when CNN was cheap about it and used their own camera man
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:11 pm
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:01 am
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:02 am
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:06 am
Skip to the one minute mark.
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:02 am
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:32 pm
Its beyond me why ya still care about this.. None live in VA and nobodies guns are going to be taken away. just purchasing rules that are approved by republicans n democrats to check the people buying; commonsense. military weapons are not for civilians.
in short.. it's a dangerous protest that will Not affect us, our way of life. I own guns, do you? if so, they will not be taken from you.
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Subject: Re: Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:47 pm
Having ignored the posts in this thread, Temple bleats
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Its beyond me why ya still care about this..
You can remain ignorant, but you can't tell us what to post, what's significant to anyone or what to "-still care about-" ...FYI, it hasn't even happened yet, Shithead
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None live in VA
You know fuckall about jack shit and sound off on it anyway .. As a matter of fact I have a house and property in Melfa, Virginia and plan to live there permanently within the next 2-3 years ..My brother and his son are there now ...I'll also remind you again that posts here aren't all about you and/or what you might "care about"
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nobodies guns are going to be taken away.
FYI, Peoples' guns have already been confiscated under the Red Flag laws .. I recall one incident off the top of my head where a man was shot in the process
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just purchasing rules that are approved by republicans n democrats to check the people buying; commonsense.
I'm not gonna sit here and explain Red Flag laws to you to compensate your ignorance on the matter ...but I WILL emphasize and repeat ...If you're not gonna bother to read articles or view the videos on a topic you admittedly don't care about->then STFU and shuffle along your clueless, ignorant fuk'n way
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military weapons are not for civilians.
Military weapons are already banned ...FYI again, the AR15, which is being specifically targeted in the gun grabs, is not a military weapon ..
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in short.. it's a dangerous protest that will Not affect us, our way of life.
It affects everyone that lives in the U.S. ... The regressive left has been picking away at our rights, primarily our 1st and 2nd amendments ..If you don't care, fine .. don't try to tell the rest of us what we should care about
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I own guns, do you? if so, they will not be taken from you.
It's none of your fuk'n business what anyone owns ..Again, I'm not gonna sit here and explain Red Flag laws to you
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