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Subject: I Watched My 1st Democratic Debate Tonight-- Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:50 pm
Ok- I watched the debate, tonight.. A wast of time.. They said the same things they say most every day.. nothing new or exciting. but- they are offering some damned great programs they have it on all points/great for America. I'll wait for when it's down to just 2 before I watch again..
JANUARY 14, 2020 / 4:04 AM / UPDATED 21 MINUTES AGO Sanders, Warren spar over disputed remark about chances of a woman defeating Trump John Whitesides, Tim Reid
DES MOINES, Iowa (Reuters) - Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders disagreed in a Democratic presidential debate on Tuesday over whether he once told her a woman could not win the White House in 2020, underlining an emerging rift between the progressive allies as the first voting nears.
After days of tensions between the fellow U.S. senators, friends and liberal standard-bearers, who agreed early in the campaign not to attack each other, Sanders emphatically denied he ever made the remark, saying it was “incomprehensible” he could have said such a thing in a private 2018 meeting with her.
Warren confirmed the comment and said she disagreed with Sanders, but quickly pivoted to the broader question of whether a woman could be elected president.
“Bernie is my friend and I am not here to try to fight with Bernie. But look, this question about whether or not a woman can be president has been raised and it’s time for us to attack it head-on,” Warren said.
The dispute brought questions about gender, sexism and electability back into the spotlight in the campaign, almost four years after Democrat Hillary Clinton failed in her bid to become the first woman president, in an upset loss to Republican Donald Trump.
Warren pointed out the men on the stage had collectively lost 10 elections, while the two women on the stage – she and U.S. Senator Amy Klobuchar – had won each election they had contested.
“I have won every race, every place, every time, I have won in the reddest of districts, I have won in the suburban areas, in the rural areas,” Klobuchar said, pointing to the 2018 election of women governors in conservative states as further evidence a woman can win the White House this year.
The rare clash between Warren and Sanders came as recent opinion polls show her trailing him nationally and in early nominating states just weeks before Iowa voters kick off the Democratic nominating race on Feb. 3.
The debate also featured sharp exchanges between Sanders and former Vice President Joe Biden on foreign policy and trade as the top Democrats made their case to voters assessing an unsettled presidential field with no clear front-runner.
The debate was the seventh in the race to find a November election challenger to Trump. Polls show an extremely tight race among Biden, Sanders, Warren and former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg.
Sanders, a longtime antiwar advocate who voted against the 2002 authorization of war in Iraq, criticized Biden for supporting the war and said they heard the same arguments from officials in former President George W. Bush’s administration before coming to different conclusions.
“I thought they were lying, I did not believe them for a moment,” Sanders said. “I did everything I could to prevent that war. Joe saw things differently.”
Biden, a former chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee who touts his security credentials, acknowledged the vote “was a big, big mistake” and said that as President Barack Obama’s vice president, he worked to bring the troops home.
“It was a mistake to trust that they weren’t going to go to war,” Biden said of the Bush administration. “It was a mistaken vote, but I think my record overall on everything we have done, I’m prepared to compare it to anybody’s on this stage.”
‘FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE’ ON TRADE
On trade, Sanders said he and Biden had “a fundamental difference” on the worth of regional free trade agreements like Trump’s new agreement with Mexico and Canada, called the USMCA, which Sanders opposes and Biden backs.
“I don’t know that there’s any trade agreement that the senator would ever think made any sense,” Biden said.
Sanders said the agreements “were written for one reason alone, and that is to increase the profits of large multinational corporations.”
With surveys showing a virtual tie in Iowa and a largely undecided electorate, all the candidates face mounting pressure to make an impression.
The debate stage was the least crowded since the debates began in June, with the Democratic National Committee’s toughened polling and fundraising requirements to qualify eliminating other candidates.
Entrepreneur Andrew Yang, an Asian American who participated in last month’s seven-candidate debate, did not make the cut this time, leaving an all-white field of debaters in a party that prides itself on diversity.
Billionaire activist Tom Steyer had qualified for the debate late after a spending surge in Nevada and South Carolina produced strong poll showings that helped him make the cut.
The Iowa debate was the first of four to be held in slightly more than a month as the first four states kick off the voting in February. The next debate will be Feb. 7 in New Hampshire, followed by debates on Feb. 19 in Nevada and Feb. 25 in South Carolina.
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Subject: Re: Democratic Debate Highlights Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:56 am
Here are the top moments from the seventh Democratic debate PUBLISHED TUE, JAN 14 202011:10 PM EST, UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO CNBC
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Subject: Re: Democratic Debate Highlights Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:12 am
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Subject: Re: Democratic Debate Highlights Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:22 am
Mark Dice watches the debates so we don't have to ... Are those 6-8 clowns all that's left? ...WTF happened to that Yang guy? ..That bastid was gonna give me $1000 a month ..He was my hero ...haha ... There's a lotta Yang memes around, mostly highlighting the $1000 he's gonna give everyone
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Subject: Re: Democratic Debate Highlights Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:39 am
Yang is still around, but you'll never see that $1,000 a year, let alone a month.
Too bad Bloomberg wasn't on the stage. He'd make all the rest look like lawn jockeys.
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Subject: Re: Democratic Debate Highlights Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:20 am
Speak of the devil----
Bloomberg pans Democratic debate for failing to address issues, says he 'didn't learn anything' By Sam Dorman | Fox News | 50 mins ago
Mayor Michael Bloomberg derided Tuesday's Democratic primary debate, telling "The View" that he "didn't learn anything" from it.
"Best debate in 2020," Bloomberg quipped about the first and only Democratic debate so far this year. He added that the debate format should change to allow more in-depth discussion on the issues.
"I suppose it's good theater but it didn't address the issues of the country and what they would do. And they're not really debates, they're pre-canned soundbites," he said on Wednesday's show.
"Everybody wants to say something that doesn't get them in trouble or does start a controversy that has been pre-scripted and they think is good. We should think about another format where they really -- somebody picks a subject and you have to talk about that subject.
The View
@TheView 2020 candidate @MikeBloomberg says he "didn't learn anything" from last night's #DemDebate, calling it a "he said, she said."
"I suppose it's good theatre, but it didn't address the issues of the country and what they would do." http://abcn.ws/2CcjBVI
9:25 AM - Jan 15, 2020
"That to me would make more sense than just free-wheeling because you go from subject to subject to subject and never get two sides," he added.
Bloomberg, who entered the 2020 race late, did not make Tuesday's debate stage but said he would like to get the chance to leverage the air time.
Co-host Abby Huntsman had asked him if he was trying to take the "easy way out" by not participating.
"No, because it's harder to get the message out if you're not in the debates. That gives you a lot of television exposure," he said.
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Subject: Re: Democratic Debate Highlights Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:21 am
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Yang is still around, but you'll never see that $1,000 a year, let alone a month.
ugghhh!! ..Wudda ya mean?? ...I have plans for that money .. it's actually already spent ..I hope you're just kidding ...He promised! ... and what am I supposed to do with all these pink Yang hats?
Yang is still around, but you'll never see that $1,000 a year, let alone a month.
ugghhh!! ..Wudda ya mean?? ...I have plans for that money .. it's actually already spent ..I hope you're just kidding ...He promised! ... and what am I supposed to do with all these pink Yang hats?
I didn't know you were a candidate ..I'm not buying any hats from you, if that's what you're get'n at ...In fact, I'll sell you my Yang hats for half price ....you can just change the name on them
I didn't know you were a candidate ..I'm not buying any hats from you, if that's what you're get'n at ...In fact, I'll sell you my Yang hats for half price ....you can just change the name on them
Then you have no chance of winning ...certainly not a better chance than Yang ...He's a candidate ...he could still win ... and I can get PAID ...The hats are still for sale tho ...haha
I watched the debates last night (1st time) I was doing whatever/but still watching - listening.
The debates are senseless up until there are just 2 candidates then it's relevant.
The moderators were horrible, absolutely horrible. they asked questions that would give the answers that the candidates speak about routinely, nothing new. A huge amount of the snooze blame is on the moderators. All candidates answers were the same ol' because of the questions.
Watching debates, this early on is a waste of time.
Warren Rejects Peace Pipe Offered By Sanders January 16th, 2020
DES MOINES, IA—There's drama afoot in the Democratic primary. Wanting to bury the tomahawk, presidential candidate Bernie Sanders walked over to Elizabeth Warren after this week's debate to have a pow-wow. Having researched Warren's culture extensively, Sanders produced an authentic Cherokee peace pipe he'd purchased on eBay for $14.99 after his grandkids showed him how to use eBay.
"How!" Sanders said, reading off some notes he'd scribbled on his hand. "I offer you peace pipe as token of friendship. Big anger go away into sky." Sanders then made the shape of a bird with his hands and pantomimed it flying away, symbolizing their feud disappearing like the spirit of a buffalo moving on to join its ancestors.
But Warren slapped the peace pipe out of his hands and crossed her arms, a sign of rejection in her culture. "No peace pipe. You have angered the Great Spirit. Leave at once, paleface." A crestfallen Sanders backed away slowly to go ask his grandkids about eBay's return policy.
Warren was reportedly conflicted over the exchange, though, wanting to open herself up to Sanders's friendship but not wanting to betray her culture. She is seeking advice from Grandmother Willow.
Sanders produced an authentic Cherokee peace pipe he'd purchased on eBay for $14.99 after his grandkids showed him how to use eBay.
At first look I thought that was an old flint lock rifle he'd just fired at her ..haa
I wouldn't waste a bullet on her.
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Subject: Who's qualified for the Democratic debate in New Hampshire Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:12 pm
Who's qualified for the Democratic debate in New Hampshire
The candidates who have qualified:
Joe Biden Elizabeth Warren Bernie Sanders Pete Buttigieg Amy Klobuchar Tom Steyer
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Subject: Re: Democratic Debate Highlights Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:36 pm
More Proof CNN Doesn't Care At All About News
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Subject: Re: Democratic Debate Highlights Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:43 pm
It all makes no difference.. Mitch will not allow witnesses/documents or to oust trump. I don't waste time watching. I do read the highlights. I find junk to post to see Grack mess himself over it ..
Beyond me why you wast time on this shit..
Grackle
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Subject: Re: Democratic Debate Highlights Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:39 pm
Temple wrote:
Mitch will not allow witnesses/documents or to oust trump.
Only a fucking idiot would actually have the ridiculous notion that Trump would be booted from the white house over the lame shit the dems tried ...Did you really think that would happen?
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I don't waste time watching.
Yea right ..now that the dems shit themselves with their arguments and Trumps lawyers have begun mopping the floor with them ... heh
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I do read the highlights.
Don't waste your time ..ha
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I find junk to post to see Grack mess himself over it ..
Well go find some .. I'm sure you'll have somethin' I can wipe my ass with
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Beyond me why you wast time on this shit..
Beyond me why you come here to make a fool of yourself ...I believe you don't even know what thread you're on .... This is the Democratic Debates thread and you're cryin' about the dem's failed impeachment ... HTH<- Hope that helps ..
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Subject: Re: Democratic Debate Highlights Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:11 pm
LOL
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Subject: Re: Democratic Debate Highlights Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:25 am
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Subject: Re: Democratic Debate Highlights Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:39 am