The January 6th Public Hearings <Thread #2>

Temple wrote:

I have a great idea--

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Wassamatta - all of a sudden you get upset cuz a thread veers off topic???

Not too worry, I'm sure more shit about The January 6th Public Hearings will get posted.

Meantime, go wish Vitriol a happy birthday:

https://ootikof.forumotion.com/t4225-hey-vitriol

The Wise And Powerful wrote:

Temple wrote:

I have a great idea--

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Wassamatta - all of a sudden you get upset cuz a thread veers off topic???

Meantime, go wish Vitriol a happy birthday:

https://ootikof.forumotion.com/t4225-hey-vitriol

I was being nice/thoughtful..offering them a way to have their own reminiscing thread.. they will love it..

Temple wrote:

The Wise And Powerful wrote:

Temple wrote:

I have a great idea--

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Wassamatta - all of a sudden you get upset cuz a thread veers off topic???

Meantime, go wish Vitriol a happy birthday:

https://ootikof.forumotion.com/t4225-hey-vitriol

I was being nice/thoughtful..offering them a way to have their own reminiscing thread.. they will love it..

What a hypocrite you are. A blatant one at that.

Temple wrote:

unemployedfarmer wrote:

The Wise And Powerful wrote:

unemployedfarmer wrote:

oliver clotheshoffe wrote:

Hey Farmer remember Peaches/Spoon at the old C.O. board? Word is the guy just passed away.

Oh yeah, I remember him! I liked arguing with him. Sorry to hear he passed away though.

There's a fairly long thread about net personalities death over at https://stomping-groundz.com/index.php

You still have an account over there.

I do remember going to that board a couple years ago. I just didn't remember the name. I was able to log in.

I have a great idea--
Since this thread and other parts of this board is;
___  Politics, Religion, Legal Issues, and Breaking News__
Why don't you guys reminisce in a thread just for you
to relive your troll nostalgia..
Wouldn't that be awesome for you to play in and being
out of the news and political threads, yes--

I saw in an old thread that Murdy claimed I called her husband. That is absolutely not true. I don't know why she would lie about me like that. The only people I ever called from the boards were people who just wanted to talk to me.

Temple wrote:

I have a great idea--
Since this thread and other parts of this board is;
___  Politics, Religion, Legal Issues, and Breaking News__
Why don't you guys reminisce in a thread just for you
to relive your troll nostalgia..
Wouldn't that be awesome for you to play in and being
out of the news and political threads, yes--

Translation - "I smoked way too much weed and can't remember the past"

Trump says he's 'financially supporting' January 6 defendants and will look 'very favorably' about full pardons if he wins the 2024 election
Jake Epstein, Madison Hall
Thu, September 1, 2022 at 10:53 AM

Trump says he's "financially supporting" defendants in trials related to the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

His comments came Thursday on the conservative Wendy Bell Radio show.

Trump also said he will look "very favorably" about giving "full pardons" to individuals if he's re-elected.

Former President Donald Trump said on Thursday he recently met with defendants in trials related to the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot and that he is financially supporting some of them.

When asked during a call-in with the conservative Wendy Bell Radio show how he can help the defendants, Trump said he's "financially supporting people that are incredible," adding that he hosted some defendants in his office just two days ago.

"It's a disgrace what they've done to them," Trump said, referring to sweeping Justice Department and FBI investigations of the deadly insurrection.

"They're firemen, they're policemen, they're people in the military," Trump said of the defendants, adding that his legal team has been "working on it very hard."

The former president did not disclose how many defendants he is supporting, nor did he mention how much money is being given.

NPR reported in January that right-wing media personalities — and organizations — have raised money for January 6 defendants.

Trump also said he will look "very favorably" about giving "full pardons" to individuals convicted of crimes related to the Capitol riot if he decides to run and win the 2024 presidential election.

"I think that's probably going to be the best because even if they go for two months or six months — they have sentences that go a lot longer than that — but we'll be looking very, very seriously at full pardons because we can't let that happen here," Trump said, adding that convicted rioters would also get an "apology."

POLITICO reported earlier this year that Trump considered issuing a blanket pardon for all individuals who participated in the Capitol riot during his final days in the White House.

As of August 30, over 900 individuals have been arrested and charged with crimes related to the deadly Capitol riots, and at least 376 people have pleaded guilty for their roles in the insurrection.

Temple wrote:

Congratulation Obi--
You hit bottom and finally got your very own
___ KOF Troll Hole..
You excelled and shine, good for you ..  

Glad you agree with Trump giving "full pardons" to individuals if he's re-elected.

The Wise And Powerful wrote:

Trump says he's 'financially supporting' January 6 defendants and will look 'very favorably' about full pardons if he wins the 2024 election
Jake Epstein, Madison Hall
Thu, September 1, 2022 at 10:53 AM

Trump says he's "financially supporting" defendants in trials related to the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

His comments came Thursday on the conservative Wendy Bell Radio show.

Trump also said he will look "very favorably" about giving "full pardons" to individuals if he's re-elected.

Former President Donald Trump said on Thursday he recently met with defendants in trials related to the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot and that he is financially supporting some of them.

When asked during a call-in with the conservative Wendy Bell Radio show how he can help the defendants, Trump said he's "financially supporting people that are incredible," adding that he hosted some defendants in his office just two days ago.

"It's a disgrace what they've done to them," Trump said, referring to sweeping Justice Department and FBI investigations of the deadly insurrection.

"They're firemen, they're policemen, they're people in the military," Trump said of the defendants, adding that his legal team has been "working on it very hard."

The former president did not disclose how many defendants he is supporting, nor did he mention how much money is being given.

NPR reported in January that right-wing media personalities — and organizations — have raised money for January 6 defendants.

Trump also said he will look "very favorably" about giving "full pardons" to individuals convicted of crimes related to the Capitol riot if he decides to run and win the 2024 presidential election.

"I think that's probably going to be the best because even if they go for two months or six months — they have sentences that go a lot longer than that — but we'll be looking very, very seriously at full pardons because we can't let that happen here," Trump said, adding that convicted rioters would also get an "apology."

POLITICO reported earlier this year that Trump considered issuing a blanket pardon for all individuals who participated in the Capitol riot during his final days in the White House.

As of August 30, over 900 individuals have been arrested and charged with crimes related to the deadly Capitol riots, and at least 376 people have pleaded guilty for their roles in the insurrection.

They very rarely locked up anyone who destroyed cities and attacked the White House. The only arrests I'm aware of were a couple of people who lit and threw Molotov cocktails at police.

Ginni Thomas claims 2020 election was stolen in meeting with House Jan. 6 committee
Bart Jansen, USA TODAY
Thu, September 29, 2022 at 2:03 PM

WASHINGTON – Ginni Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, repeated claims the 2020 election was stolen, despite a lack of evidence, while testifying Thursday before the House committee investigating the Capitol attack on Jan. 6, 2021.

The committee wanted to interview Ginni Thomas about her advocacy for challenging the results of the 2020 election. The chairman, Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., told reporters after the session she repeated her opinion the election was stolen despite a lack of evidence.

"She said that," Thompson told CNN.

Her lawyer, Mark Paoletta, issued a statement saying she answered the committee's questions, voiced her concerns about election fraud and condemned the violence on Jan. 6.

"As she has said from the outset, Mrs. Thomas has significant concerns about fraud and irregularities in the 2020 election," Paoletta said. "Beyond that, she played no role in any events after the 2020 election results."

Numerous public officials at federal and state levels investigated election results and found no widespread fraud, including Trump aides such as former Attorney General Bill Barr. Richard Donoghue, former acting deputy attorney general, said Trump provided an "arsenal of allegations" about election fraud that were all shot down, including a baseless claim about Italian satellites altering votes.

“The whole thing was very, very murky at best, and the video was absurd,” Donoghue told the House committee.

The committee has been eager to talk with Ginni Thomas because she sent dozens of text messages to former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows urging him to fight the results of the 2020 election.

Among the 29 messages, Ginni Thomas called Biden's win “the greatest Heist of our History” in a text on Nov. 10, 2020, according to The Washington Post.

“Do not concede,” Thomas wrote on Nov. 6, 2020. “It takes time for the army who is gathering for his back.”

In addition, Ginni Thomas urged Arizona state lawmakers to reverse former President Donald Trump's election loss in 2020 by choosing electors themselves. And the Washington Post reported she also pressured Wisconsin lawmakers to do the same.

Her political activism has raised concerns in the past about possible influence on Clarence Thomas and prompted calls for him to recuse himself from cases dealing with the Capitol attack. But Ginni Thomas said she doesn’t discuss cases with her husband, and he hasn’t commented on possible conflicts.

Ginni Thomas acknowledged attending Trump’s rally Jan. 6, 2021, before a mob of his supporters attacked the Capitol. But she said she left the rally because it was cold and never went to the Capitol

The Wise And Powerful wrote:

Ginni Thomas claims 2020 election was stolen in meeting with House Jan. 6 committee
Bart Jansen, USA TODAY
Thu, September 29, 2022 at 2:03 PM

WASHINGTON – Ginni Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, repeated claims the 2020 election was stolen, despite a lack of evidence, while testifying Thursday before the House committee investigating the Capitol attack on Jan. 6, 2021.

The committee wanted to interview Ginni Thomas about her advocacy for challenging the results of the 2020 election. The chairman, Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., told reporters after the session she repeated her opinion the election was stolen despite a lack of evidence.

"She said that," Thompson told CNN.

Her lawyer, Mark Paoletta, issued a statement saying she answered the committee's questions, voiced her concerns about election fraud and condemned the violence on Jan. 6.

"As she has said from the outset, Mrs. Thomas has significant concerns about fraud and irregularities in the 2020 election," Paoletta said. "Beyond that, she played no role in any events after the 2020 election results."

Numerous public officials at federal and state levels investigated election results and found no widespread fraud, including Trump aides such as former Attorney General Bill Barr. Richard Donoghue, former acting deputy attorney general, said Trump provided an "arsenal of allegations" about election fraud that were all shot down, including a baseless claim about Italian satellites altering votes.

“The whole thing was very, very murky at best, and the video was absurd,” Donoghue told the House committee.

The committee has been eager to talk with Ginni Thomas because she sent dozens of text messages to former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows urging him to fight the results of the 2020 election.

Among the 29 messages, Ginni Thomas called Biden's win “the greatest Heist of our History” in a text on Nov. 10, 2020, according to The Washington Post.

“Do not concede,” Thomas wrote on Nov. 6, 2020. “It takes time for the army who is gathering for his back.”

In addition, Ginni Thomas urged Arizona state lawmakers to reverse former President Donald Trump's election loss in 2020 by choosing electors themselves. And the Washington Post reported she also pressured Wisconsin lawmakers to do the same.

Her political activism has raised concerns in the past about possible influence on Clarence Thomas and prompted calls for him to recuse himself from cases dealing with the Capitol attack. But Ginni Thomas said she doesn’t discuss cases with her husband, and he hasn’t commented on possible conflicts.

Ginni Thomas acknowledged attending Trump’s rally Jan. 6, 2021, before a mob of his supporters attacked the Capitol. But she said she left the rally because it was cold and never went to the Capitol

I think she's right. I've seen hundreds of videos which prove it to me.

Do you honestly think that committee sifted through one million new electronic communications???

A colossal waste of taxpayer money.

I read somewhere that democrats are just getting started with the Jan 6 crap ...All the prior blather has been like "Season One" of a TV show

Roger Stone Melts Down As Jan 6 Committee Hearing Unfolds
Zachary Petrizzo
Thu, October 13, 2022 at 2:36 PM

As the Jan. 6 Committee played the video of Roger Stone's closed-door deposition and footage from a yet-to-be-released documentary that chronicled the dirty trickster ahead of the 2020 election, the longtime informal Donald Trump adviser frantically melted down online.

“In 2000, when the Bush v. Gore election was still in doubt James A. Baker III urged Bush to claim victory, which he did and was hailed as a genius,” he wrote on Telegram as the hearing unfolded. “When I said Trump should do the same thing (in public but to not to either Trump or anyone around him) and I am accused of criminal conduct. Total BS.”

As the committee was presenting their case, on Thursday afternoon, Stone doubled down by posting a picture of an empty hamburger bun, attempting to mock the Jan 6. Committee as a “nothing burger.”

“All I've seen in today's Jan 6 Committee is guilt by association,” he declared. “The fact that I know or have met someone is most certainly not evidence of criminal conspiracy. If the committee has actual proof and content of communication between me and any one charged with a crime, they should produce it.”

Even before the hearing kicked off, Stone was on the defensive, threatening to file a $25 million lawsuit against the Danish filmmakers — Frederik Marbell and Christoffer Guldbrandsen — who caught him back in November saying, “Fuck the voting, let's get right to the violence.”

The footage was played during Thursday's hearing as committee members made the case that Trump and his associates were complicit in the Jan. 6 riot.



(Stone has since called the footage of himself a “deep fake.” He has not presented any evidence to back up the charge.)

“I will seek a restraining order preventing the release of his film in the United States,” he added.

Stone didn't return The Daily Beast's request for comment.

But Stone wasn't alone in his dismissal what is believed to be the committee's final televised hearing.

In the wake of the committee voting in favor of subpoenaing Donald Trump, two advisers in the former president's orbit laughed off the historic action, insisting that most Americans couldn't care less about the committee's proceeding.

One argued most don't care about Trump's failed coup attempt.

“Go ask a random American out there what January 6 means to them, and they probably won't know what you're talking about. Ask them how pissed they are about inflation and gas prices and their 401(k) getting wrecked and they'll talk your ears off,” the adviser told The Daily Beast. “The Democrats' obsession with this entire thing is a political liability and comes across like they're out of touch with what regular Americans actually care about.”

The prattle from these professors is of no importance

Democrats have carried on about January 6th for almost 2 years now.. Made a TV show about their investigating and findings ...

I think it's time to end the hysteria and get their attack dogs in DOJ, FBI to charge him with a crime or STFU .. This committee of anti Trump democrats can't do shit but squawk about it/him .. Give it to law enforcement and get to work on current problems for the people they're supposed to be representing

A infinitesimally tiny victory. He will undoubtedly keep it in court until after the mid-terms at the very least. In the highly unlikely event he does show up, it will be the 5th all the way. But, one more tiny stone on the pile. Nibbled down by mice, or eaten by lions, the end product is the same.

Top 5 moments from latest Jan. 6 hearing before midterm elections include Trump subpoena, new video

The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the U.S. Capitol concluded its likely final meeting before the midterm elections with a few surprises.

Spectators tuning into the nearly three-hour event Thursday saw members of the panel vote to subpoena former President Donald Trump to testify about his alleged role in fomenting the attack. Viewers were also given new revelations about the nearly 16-month congressional inquiry.

Below are five of the biggest moments from the committee's latest hearing:

The nine members of the committee, seven Democrats and two anti-Trump Republicans, voted unanimously to compel the former president to testify about his conduct leading up to and during the attack.

"This is a question about accountability to the American people," said committee Chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss. "He's required to answer to those millions of Americans whose votes he tried to throw out as part of his scheme to remain in power."

Trump has previously refused to voluntarily cooperate with the panel, calling it a partisan witch hunt.

Taylor Budowich, a spokesman for former President Donald Trump, responded on social media by saying that Democrats were engaged in "partisan theatrics."

"Today, 26 days before the Midterm Elections, America is truly a nation in decline. Inflation is out of control, the crime rate is at an all time high, and the crisis at our southern border has never been worse," Budowich wrote in a tweet. "However, instead of using their final days in power to make life for Americans any better, Democrats are doubling and tripling down on their partisan theatrics."

Budowich added, "Pres Trump will not be intimidated by their meritless rhetoric or un-American actions. Trump-endorsed candidates will sweep the Midterms, and America First leadership & solutions will be restored. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

"We are obligated to seek answers directly from the man who set this all in motion," said committee member Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo. "Every American is entitled to those answers, so we can act now to protect our republic."

Trump could fight the subpoena, which likely would tip off a legal fight with just over two months left in the current Congress — a very short time frame for such a major legal dispute. If Republicans take over the House in the midterms, it's not expected they will continue the work of the Jan. 6 committee.

Trump’s one-time campaign manager, Brad Parscale, reportedly told the committee that the former president planned as early as July 2020 to declare re-election victory in November.

Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., claimed that Parscale had told the committee that Trump long planned a pre-emptive declaration of victory.

"In the course of our investigation, we also interviewed Brad Parscale, President Trump's former campaign manager. He told us he understood that President Trump planned as early as July that he would say he won the election even if he lost," said Lofgren.

Members of the committee also played videos of Trump allies, including Steve Bannon and Roger Stone, arguing for a pre-emptive declaration of victory.

In the wake of the 2020 election, Trump signed a memo ordering U.S. troops to withdraw from Afghanistan and Somalia, according to witnesses who testified before the Jan. 6 committee.

Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., said the order proved that Trump understood that he had lost the White House and was moving to wind down the U.S. troop presence abroad before President Biden took office.

"Knowing that he had lost and that he had only weeks left in office, President Trump rushed to complete his unfinished business," said Kinzinger. "Knowing he was leaving office, he acted immediately and signed this order on Nov. 11th, which would have required the immediate withdrawal of troops from Somalia and Afghanistan — all to be complete before the Biden inauguration on Jan. 20th."

Military witnesses said they believed that Trump's plan was highly reckless and would have been a debacle — just as President Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal turned out to be in August 2021.

The committee did not detail why the order was never carried out.

The committee played video of Democratic and Republican congressional leaders urging Trump and top administration officials to act immediately to quell the riot during the height of the attack.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., were both filmed demanding former acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen to implore Trump to make a statement urging the rioters to stop.

Party leaders, including House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Senate Minority Whip John Thune, R-S.D., were also shown gathering around a phone asking federal and state officials for military help.

Rep. Pete Aguilar, D-Calif., a member of the committee, said there were plans to recall witnesses who testified that Trump allegedly lunged at a Secret Service agent for refusing to drive him to the Capitol during the attack.

"After concluding its review of the voluminous additional Secret Service communications from Jan. 5th and Jan. 6th, the committee will be recalling witnesses and conducting further investigative depositions based on that material," said Aguilar.

Earlier this year, former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson recounted a conversation she had with ex-Trump deputy chief of staff Tony Ornato directly after Trump's rally in front of the Ellipse on Jan. 6.

Hutchinson said Ornato told her that Trump tried to "grab at the steering wheel" then lunged at the Secret Service agent in charge at the time because the agent wouldn't drive Trump to the Capitol as the riot was taking place.

A source close to Ornato told Fox News' David Spunt after Hutchinson's testimony that Ornato was shocked when Hutchinson made the allegation about the steering wheel. That source said both Ornato and Secret Service agent Robert Engel would be willing to testify to the committee to refute that part of Hutchinson's story.

Aguilar said on Thursday that the committee was investigating potential "obstruction" of justice related to the allegation.

oliver clotheshoffe wrote:

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Democrats think Americans are stupid. Americans are not stupid. Americans see what democrats are doing to the country every time they go to the gas station and the grocery store. Americans couldn't care less what happened two years ago.
____They care about what's going to happen to their 401ks___
if we don't get these idiots out of power.

Temple replied:

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You are beyond stupid and a totally uninformed dimwit)

Be enlightened--

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The crap you pasted has absolutely nothing to do with what you quoted .. A non sequitur, IOW
... Either you can't comprehend the written words you quoted, to which you responded, or you quoted the words simply for the fuck of it..for reasons only known to you ... Anyway

What have democrats done about crime, which has literally exploded around the country? .. Primarily due to their bail reform

What have democrats done about the uncontrolled mass migration through the open southern border? .. They've ignored and/or blatantly lied about it ..Terrorists, criminals, drugs streaming in to the country killing Americans by the thousands

..You can claim that America's problems are world wide all you want, but the soaring energy costs are directly attributed to Biden, shutting down our energy resources right under our feet to carry out his green new deal, climate change bullshit
These democrats making a fucking TV show about a riot that happened two years ago IS NOT what people care about, which is the point of Oliver's post you quoted, which apparently you cannot comprehend