What Impeachment Could Do To Trump and the Republican Party.

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The most obvious obstacle to impeaching President Donald Trump is that even if he is impeached, 20 Republicans would have to vote to convict him in the Senate trial.

“Impeachment was meant to be a political remedy for political offenses, Klein at Vox.
But over time, it has mutated into something quite different: a partisan remedy for political offenses. And partisan remedies are subject to partisan considerations.
If Trump falls before an impeachment trial, the Republican Party will be left in wreckage.
The GOP’s leaders can’t permit the destruction of their own party. They will protect Trump at all costs.”

''Trump doesn’t even have to be removed for impeachment to injure his presidency — and strengthen the rule of law. There are, he argued, three tangible things even a failed impeachment would accomplish.''

''The first thing impeachment would do, is serve as a mark of shame on the Trump presidency.''

“Impeachment acts as a form of public disgrace.
To be one of only four impeached presidents in American history, even if you are not convicted by the Senate, is to know an asterisk will be forever attached to your presidency, your offenses prominently recorded.

It’s a humiliation for you and a warning to your successors. That’s one way in which impeachment acts as a deterrent. It’s a statement that a particular action falls outside the boundaries of normal American politics, that the behavior violated the public trust in a historic fashion.”
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''The second thing impeachment would do is wound the president’s re-election prospects.

The Senate isn’t the only possible judge of an impeachment case. In 2020, Americans will go to the polls to vote for the next president.
If the House conducts a serious, thorough impeachment investigation, the revelations of that inquiry will inform their choice.
Indeed, if Senate Republicans are stonewalling accountability for a clearly corrupt president, it may affect Americans’ choices in Senate elections, too. Moreover, Trump’s offense is directly relevant to the 2020 election. In trying the case before the ‘judge’ of the 2020 electorate, House Democrats will be elevating Trump’s offense to the proper jury.”
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Finally, third; ''impeachment would be a direct message to foreign governments that the United States does not tolerate attacks on its election system.

The question for any foreign country facing an opportunity or request to intervene in America’s election is what they may gain and what they may lose. For Ukraine, the potential gains were clear: military aid and anything else that might flow from nurturing Trump’s goodwill.''

''The spotlight of impeachment makes the costs clearer, too. A foreign country that is asked to intervene in an American election may see its activities exposed, much to the fury of the other political party and the public. Ukraine may want Trump’s goodwill, but it doesn’t want the Democrats’ ill will or the distraction and infamy of this investigation.”

''Just because impeachment has become a more partisan and toothless procedure than the founders intended doesn’t mean it’s a waste of time.''

“Even a broken impeachment process has its uses,” “The Senate may refuse its role, but through a properly designed impeachment process, the House can focus the public’s attention, send a message to the world, and create a record for the future.”

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No mention of what it'll do to democrats .. To try to impeach a president for an entire 4 year term, and fail ...Then what ..they expect voters will elect any of'em?

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trump will wear the stain of shame to the end of his life and beyond in history..
Nixon 1973 impeached/resigned - half a century ago and most all remembered of him is his stain.
trump win or lose he is stained..
4th president in 232 years BWAHAA!

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No mention of what it'll do to democrats .. To try to impeach a president for an entire 4 year term, and fail

People don't know of any such "stain" on Reagan, Bush jr and Bush sr that democrats tried and failed to impeach ....I suggest what will leave the biggest "stain" on Trump's 1st term would be the pitiful antics of the democrats in their ridiculous attempts to remove him since day 1 of his election

..Their unprecedented number of investigations, hearings, and false reports from their media, costing American taxpayers multi million$ while they come up empty time after time with egg on their face and the stench of dead crow and sour grapes wafting from their yapping maws

Obviously they don't give a shit about the American people that elected him and are only concerned with their own agenda(s) and political power .. Fuck the American people and what they want, who pay them to represent them ..This bogus impeachment bullshit is nothing more than another attempted smear campaign ... an attempt to sway voters against electing him again .. They know they can't win an election with the stooges they have running

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Donald Trump is causing a constitutional crisis with his blanket refusal to respond to any subpoenas.

An impeachment inquiry in the House won't send him packing before Election Day 2020 because Senate Republicans won't convict him of impeachment.

So the practical political question is whether a House impeachment inquiry helps send him packing after Election Day. That seems unlikely.

Does this mean House Democrats should avoid taking the political risk of impeaching Trump? Not at all.

It is whether an action designed to enforce our Constitution is important for its own sake even if it goes nowhere, even if it's unpopular with many voters, even if it's politically risky.

By issuing a blanket refusal to respond to any congressional subpoena, Trump is saying Congress has no constitutional authority to oversee the executive branch. He's telling America that Congress is a subordinate branch of government rather than a co-equal branch. Forget separation of powers.

By unilaterally shuttering the government in order to get his way, Trump has said he has the constitutional right not to execute the laws whenever it suits him.

The core purpose of the U.S. Constitution is to prevent tyranny. That's why the framers of the Constitution distributed power among the president, Congress, and the judiciary. That's why each of the three branches was designed to limit the powers of the other two.

In other words, the framers anticipated the possibility of a Donald Trump.

The framers also put in mechanisms to enforce the Constitution against a president who tries to usurp the powers of the other branches of government.

Trump surely is usurping the powers of the other branches. Under these circumstances, the Constitution 'mandates' that the House undertake an impeachment inquiry and present evidence to the Senate.

This may not be the practical political thing to do. But it is the right thing to do.

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As I've said before, -I know how to copy and paste too .. You can continue to paste these anti Trump/pro democrat articles till you shit yourself ... Nobody believes that the democrat's 3 year endeavor to impeach the president is for any kinda noble cause to protect the constitution or the American people from tyranny ...

If the people believe the democrat's rhetoric and support their incessant investigating and relentless attempts to conjure a way to impeach him, then they'll vote him out next year in the election ..But democrats know they can't win a fair election and continue these political stunts and attempts to smear him ...They'll drag this shit on throughout the campaign and try to use the ongoing impeachment as leverage and an excuse why he shouldn't be reelected ..They've shot themselves in the ass once again

Trump Is Raising MILLIONS Over Impeachment Scandal, But Support For Impeachment Is GROWING
Tim Pool • Sep 28, 2019 • 37,071 views

Trump Is Raising MILLIONS Over Impeachment Scandal, But Support For Impeachment Is GROWING. In the several days since Democrat Nancy pelosi announced a formal impeachment inquiry into Trump, his reelection campaign has raised over FIFTEEN Million dollars.

Not only that, but Republicans have seen a 608% increase in donations for congressional campaigns and Trump saw $50,000 from NEW Donors.

From the look of this how could we assume impeachment is bad for Trump? Even as polls being to show a major swing in favor of impeachment Trump's base seems mostly unwavering. His aggregate approval is relatively static and so is his favorability rating.

Trump will not be impeached. Mitch McConnell would not allow it and there are not enough anti trump politicians in the Senate to reach a two thirds majority for conviction.

In the end Trump will rally his base, accused the Democrats of being single minded, and raise millions of Dollars.

Here is the catch, Democrats Are ALSO raising millions. While not as much as Trump they have still brought in around 4.6M dollars.

But perhaps this too was part of Trump's plan. If his base gets too arrogant they may not show up on election day feeling that they can't lose.

It's hard to know for sure but in the short term the cash is looking good for the President. And as for the far left, anything that could known out Joe Biden is beneficial as well. It seems like all sides might be very happy with this turn of events.

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The donators may well ask for their donations back lol!

It has just begun.

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