Georgia Elections

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1-1-2021

Trump goes off on rant calling Georgia 'illegal and invalid'.
(((before voting ends and count)))

President Donald Trump went off on another Twitter rant
about the 2020 election, calling Georgia, in particular,
"illegal and invalid."

Spending New Year's Day watching conservative news
and tweeting his grievances. He flew back to the
White House ahead of his Mar-a-Lago
New Year's Eve party, missing the event for the
first time in 20 years only to spend the celebration
without his top allies.

"Before even discussing the massive corruption which
took place in the 2020 Election, which gives us
far more votes than is necessary to win all of the
Swing States (only need three), it must be
noted that the State Legislatures were not in any
way responsible for the massive changes made
to the voting process, rules and regulations,
many made hastily before the election, and therefore
the whole State Election is not legal or Constitutional,"
Trump said.

"Additionally, the Georgia Consent Decree
is Unconstitutional & the State 2020 Presidential Election
is therefore both illegal and invalid, and that
would include the two current Senatorial Elections.
In Wisconsin, Voters not asking for applications
invalidates the Election. All of this without even
discussing the millions of fraudulent votes that
were cast or altered!" he also ranted.

Trump has been at odds with Gov. Brian Kemp (R-GA),
who he's called to resign for a failure to steal
the election for the president despite Trump's
enthusiastic endorsements.

((trump has gone off the edge- he is not right in the head,
he needs help, an evaluation, and care)))
..................................

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Before even discussing the massive corruption which
took place in the 2020 Election, which gives us
far more votes than is necessary to win all of the
Swing States (only need three), it must be noted that
the State Legislatures were not in any way responsible
for the massive....
Election officials have certified Joe Biden as the winner
of the U.S. Presidential election
5:27 PM · Jan 1, 2021·
........
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Replying to
@realDonaldTrump
....changes made to the voting process, rules and regulations,
many made hastily before the election, and therefore
the whole State Election is not legal or Constitutional.
Additionally, the Georgia Consent Decree is Unconstitutional
& the State 2020 Presidential Election....
This claim about election fraud is disputed
.........
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
....is therefore both illegal and invalid, and that
would include the two current Senatorial Elections.
In Wisconsin, Voters not asking for applications invalidates
the Election. All of this without even discussing
the millions of fraudulent votes that were cast or altered!
This claim about election fraud is disputed....
...........................................
fer fuk--
To Trump;
You lost in the General Election.
You lost in the Popular Vote by 7M.
You lost the Electoral vote, 306-232.
You lost the recounts.
You lost 60 court cases.
You lost the Supreme Court.

((grow the fuck up or commit yourself))

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1-3-2021

In hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia official to 'recalculate' election and 'find 11,780 votes'.

President Donald Trump tried for over an hour to pressure Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

The telephone call, which was described as "rambling" and "incoherent," was first reported by The Washington Post on Sunday.

According to the report, Trump tried to convince Raffensperger to reverse the election results by both flattering and berating him.

“The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry," the president explained at one point. “And there's nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you've recalculated."

“Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong," Raffensperger replied.

“So look. All I want to do is this," Trump later explained. "I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state."

"There's no way I lost Georgia," he added. “There's no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes."

On Sunday, Trump admitted in a tweet that he had spoken to Raffensperger.

"I spoke to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger yesterday about Fulton County and voter fraud in Georgia. He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the 'ballots under table' scam, ballot destruction, out of state “voters", dead voters, and more. He has no clue!" Trump wrote.

Raffensperger responded by saying that Trump's claim was "not true."
.........
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I spoke to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger yesterday about Fulton County and voter fraud in Georgia. He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the “ballots under table” scam, ballot destruction, out of state “voters”, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!
......
GA Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger
@GaSecofState
Respectfully, President Trump: What you're saying is not true. The truth will come out.

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1-4-2021

AP FACT CHECK:
Trump’s made-up claims of fake Georgia votes.

President Donald Trump put forth a dizzying array of fuzzy accounting and outright false claims in an extraordinary phone call to Georgia’s secretary of state seeking a reversal of his election defeat, fabricating a slew of votes that he said should’ve been counted in his favor.

In the hourlong conversation Saturday with Georgia’s secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, Trump suggested that the Republican “find” enough votes to hand Trump the victory.

The Associated Press obtained the full audio of Trump’s conversation with Georgia officials from a person on the call. The AP has a policy of not amplifying disinformation and unproven allegations. The AP plans to post the full audio as it annotates a transcript with fact check material.

A look at Trump’s claims on the call and how they compare with reality:

* ___TRUMP: “If we can go over some of the numbers, I think it’s pretty clear we won, we won very substantially in Georgia.”

____THE FACTS: No, Trump lost Georgia in an election the state has certified for Democrat Joe Biden. Republican election officials have affirmed the election was conducted and counted fairly.

With ballots counted three times, including once by hand, Georgia’s certified totals show Trump lost to Biden by 11,779 votes out of nearly 5 million cast. Raffensperger certified the totals with officials saying they’ve found no evidence that Trump won.

No credible claims of fraud or systemic errors have been sustained. Judges have turned away legal challenges to the results, although at least one is still pending in state court.

* ___ TRUMP: “People should be happy to have an accurate count... We have other states I believe will be flipping to us shortly.”

___ THE FACTS: No reversal of the election outcome is in the offing, in Georgia or other states.

Biden defeated Trump by some 7 million popular votes nationwide and by a tally of 306-232 in the Electoral College, achieving victory in other key states such as Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Arizona.

Trump’s former attorney general, William Barr, found no evidence of widespread election fraud. Trump’s allegations of massive voting fraud have been dismissed by a succession of judges and refuted by state election officials and an arm of his own administration’s Homeland Security Department.

* ___ TRUMP: “The other thing, dead people. So dead people voted. And I think the number is in the — close to 5,000 people. And they went to obituaries. They went to all sorts of methods to come up with an accurate number. And a minimum is close to about 5,000 voters.”

___ THE FACTS: Not true. Georgia officials have debunked previous claims by the Trump campaign in November that three particular people had voted illegally, finding that other people with similar names had voted. At the time, a local district attorney announced an investigation into whether a ballot had illegally been cast in the name of a northwest Georgia man who died in 2015.

On Saturday, Raffensperger said two illegal votes on behalf of dead people have been confirmed, not thousands as Trump alleged. “The actual number were two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted. And so that’s wrong,” Raffensperger said.

* ___ TRUMP: “We have anywhere from 250 (thousand) to 300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls, much of that had to do with Fulton County, which hasn’t been checked.”

___ THE FACTS: There’s nothing mysterious or suspect about it. He is describing a legitimate vote counting process, not a sudden surge of malfeasance.

Trump appears to be referring to large numbers of votes that were tabulated in the early hours of Wednesday morning after Election Day and later. The arrival of those votes was not mysterious, but expected, because many of Georgia’s 159 counties had large stacks of mail-in ballots that had to be tabulated after polls closed and in-person ballots were counted.

In-person votes, which tend to be counted more quickly, would likely favor the president, who had spent months warning his supporters to avoid mail-in voting and to vote in person either early or on Election Day.

And mail-in-ballots, which take longer to count since they must be removed from envelopes and verified before they are counted, would favor Biden. States tend to count mail-in ballots at the end of the process.

* ___ TRUMP: “We think ... if (there is) a real check of signatures going back in Fulton County, you’ll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures.”

___ THE FACTS: That has no basis in reality.

It would be impossible for anyone to have forged hundreds of thousands of signatures on mail-in ballots in Fulton County because there were only about 147,000 mail-in ballots in Georgia’s most populous county, with about 116,000 of them going to Biden.

* ___ TRUMP, claiming thousands of voters moved out of Georgia, registered in another state, and then improperly cast ballots in Georgia: “They came back in, and they voted. That was a large number.”

___ THE FACTS: Not so. Trump supporters are working from a list of questionable accuracy, according to Ryan Germany, the general counsel for Raffensperger’s office. He told Trump during the call that the claims have been investigated and that in many cases, voters “moved back years ago. It’s not like it happened just before the election. There’s something about that data that it’s just not accurate.”

* ___ TRUMP: “It doesn’t pass the smell test, because we hear they’re shredding thousands and thousands of ballots and now what they’re saying (is) ‘Oh, we’re just cleaning up the office.’”

___ THE FACTS: The shredding in question was taking place in suburban Cobb County, not in Fulton County as Trump claimed. Cobb County elections officials said Nov. 24 that none of the items shredded by a contractor were “relevant to the election or the re-tally” and instead were things like old mailing labels, other papers with voter information, old emails and duplicates of absentee ballot applications.

* ___ TRUMP, claiming that a Fulton County election worker fed ballots through a machine three times instead of only once, saying his campaign would release a video proving it: “It can’t be disputed. We have a version that you haven’t seen, but it’s magnified. It’s magnified and you can see everything. For some reason, they put it in three times each ballot. And I don’t know why, I don’t know why three times and not five times, right?”

___ THE FACTS: There was no double or triple tallying of ballots. Raffensperger noted that ballots in Georgia have been counted and then recounted twice more for accuracy, including once by hand, and no discrepancy showed up in the Fulton County ballots, as it would have if someone improperly counted votes multiple times. “We did an audit of that,” Raffensperger told Trump. “It was proved conclusively that they were not scanned three times.”

* ___ TRUMP, attacking a legal settlement that Georgia signed with the state Democratic Party over how signatures on absentee ballot applications and absentee ballots are verified. “You can’t check signatures, you can’t do that... You’re allowed to do harvesting, I guess, in that agreement. That agreement is a disaster for this country.”

___ THE FACTS: There is nothing in the March 6 consent decree that prevents Georgia’s election clerks from scrutinizing signatures. The legal settlement addresses accusations about a lack of statewide standards for judging signatures on absentee ballot envelopes. Raffensperger has said that not only is it entirely possible to match signatures, but that the state requires it.

Ballot harvesting, the practice of collecting numbers of absentee ballots and delivering them back to elections officials, remains illegal in Georgia.

* ___TRUMP, referring to investigations into his baseless claims of voter fraud: “You have your never-Trumper U.S. attorney there.”

____ THE FACTS: The U.S. attorney in Atlanta is a actually a Trump appointee. Byung J. “BJay” Pak is a longtime Republican who also served in the Georgia House of Representatives from 2011 until 2017. He was nominated by Trump to become the U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Georgia in 2017. In announcing his nomination, the White House said that Pak and five other nominees for U.S. attorney’s posts “share the president’s vision for ‘Making America Safe Again.’” Pak had previously also worked as an assistant U.S. attorney.

* ___ TRUMP, citing 18,000 “suspicious” votes: “The tape that’s been shown all over the world ... they said very clearly there was a major water main break. Everybody fled the area and then they came back ... there were no Republican poll watchers ... and there was no law enforcement ... It was stuffed with votes. They weren’t in an official voter box, they were in what looked to be in suitcases or trunks. ... The minimum number it could be ... was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden.”

___ THE FACTS: That’s a gross distortion of what actually happened.

State and Fulton County election officials say surveillance video that Trump refers shows no improper behavior, but normal ballot processing using not suitcases, but ballot containers on wheels. Officials said that the entire video showed the same workers had earlier packed the ballot containers with valid, uncounted ballots.

Republicans have contended that their observers were told to leave Fulton County’s vote counting center, but elections officials said they actually left after confusion that arose because election workers thought they were done for the night.

An independent monitor and an investigator in fact oversaw the vote count, according to state and county officials. Trump also refers to a fake confession attributed by a woman allegedly involved in the incident that was posted on social media.

* ___ TRUMP: “In other states we think we found tremendous corruption with Dominion machines, but we’ll have to see.”

___ THE FACTS: No “tremendous corruption” has been found.

There’s “no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes or was in any way compromised,” said the federal agency that oversees election security, in a statement joined by state and electoral-industry officials.
___
Associated Press writers Eric Tucker and Mark Sherman contributed to this report.

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1-4-2021

WATCH: Texas Republican threatens civil war if Democrats win Georgia runoff elections.

On Fox News Monday, Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) appeared to suggest that Republicans
would declare outright civil war against the United States if
Democrats win the Georgia runoffs on Tuesday.

"Here's the thing," said Roy. "What happens tomorrow in Georgia —
if we have a Democratically controlled Senate, I mean, we're now basically
at full-scale hot conflict in this country, whereas right now we're in a cold civil war.
We've got a major problem in this country where the American people, the regular people
out there that are working every day, hardworking Americans, they are getting trampled
by a system that is rigged against them."

"That is what is at stake, and if the American people in Georgia don't show up, i
f Georgians don't show up and ensure that we hold the Senate in Republican hands,
then that's what's happening," said Roy. "Two additional votes coming out
of the Senate in Washington, D.C. and Puerto Rico, they lock it down for good."

Watch below:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1346267039581790209

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I want to say;

I do not believe the Dems will take the Senate..
Early voting will look like they will win, they won't
The, now, lines are fat old women they are trumps people.
the men in the line have horrible shoes, they are trump people.

so- early voters are Dems and the in line now are trumps.
Georiga is Hillibly country, interbreed peoples, mostly.
hmmm- the Dems will not take the senate..

If it were any other state no problem, but not in Georiga.

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