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PostSubject: Karl Rove Speaks-- Fact Checks--   The FBI search at Trump's Mar-a-Lago home - Page 4 EmptyWed Aug 31, 2022 6:52 pm

8-31-2022

Conservative Karl Rove corrects Fox News host:
'None of these government documents are his'.

Republican Karl Rove on Wednesday forced a Fox News host to face the fact that Donald Trump took documents that didn't belong to him.

Documents at former US president Donald Trump's Florida home were "likely concealed" to obstruct an FBI probe into his potential mishandling of classified materials, the Justice Department said in a court filing Tuesday.

Before the raid, the FBI uncovered "multiple sources of evidence" showing that "classified documents" remained at Mar-a-Lago, the filing says.

"The government also developed evidence that government records were likely concealed and removed... and that efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government's investigation," the filing adds.

Responding to the latest news, Fox News host Martha MacCallum cited Trump's talking point that the documents seized by the FBI were his and further claimed that he declassified what he took.

"The Trump side has their lawyers and their feelings about what was rightfully his and able to take," MacCallum said.

Rove interrupted:
___"Well, let's just be clear on this, none of these government documents are his to have taken. I agree with the deputy director, who said that a lot of the former president's problems are of his own creation. You can't —
under the Presidential Records Act of 1978 you cannot take original documents with you when
you leave the White House.

When there is the president of the United States
or any of his aides, you know —
that's forbidden under the law."

He continued saying that there are no criminal penalties for violating the PRA, but Trump has caused more problems by potentially violating other laws outside of the PRA.

"But why the former president packed up
20 nearly 30 some-odd boxes of material when he had no right to do so," Rove continued.
"And that's what the government asserts in this filing that he — the former president asked for the return of the documents because, as he said in his filing, they were created in his administration.

And the response from the government was, that's evidence that they aren't his if they were developed in the White House during his time of presidency under the Presidential Records Act.
They belong to the government and not to him!"

The DOJ filing responded to Trump's request last week for an independent party, or "special master,"
to screen files seized in the FBI raid for materials protected by personal privilege.

Naming a special master could potentially block investigators' access to the documents, especially if he or she accepts Trump's claims that most were privileged.

The filing argues that the court should not appoint a special master___
"because those records do not belong to (Trump)."

The "appointment of a special master is unnecessary and would significantly harm important governmental interests, including national security interests,"
the filing adds.

Watch--1min..

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That picture has to be fake. No way would Trump put that carpeting in his house.
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When in hell will you people read..
It has been stated and documented;
Those files were IN trumps Desk Drawer ..
They were not taken out of a carton nor
were they dropped-
They were laid out, not thrown, to photograph..
They were in the desk drawer.. not secured.
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I'll have take Trump's word on this leftwing photo-op, Temple.

The F.B.I. would have taken everything they found back to headquarters intact. No way would they have gone through everything on site. They simply aren't that clumsy - it was staged.
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The Wise And Powerful wrote:
I'll have take Trump's word on this leftwing photo-op, Temple.

The F.B.I. would have taken everything they found back to headquarters intact. No way would they have gone through everything on site. They simply aren't that clumsy - it was staged.

It seems hard to believe there are still people who believe all their rhetoric after everything else they've said was shown to be false, and staged. The boy has cried wolf way too many times.
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PostSubject: Feds No 'Declassification Order by Trump    The FBI search at Trump's Mar-a-Lago home - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 12, 2022 8:16 pm

9-12-2022

Feds claim there are no documents on record that apply to a so-called Trump 'declassification order'

Former President Donald Trump and his allies have claimed multiple times that there was a kind of "declassification order" on many of the documents that he took from the White House back to his country club in Florida.

In an interview with the Fox network, Trump said that while he was in office he "often took documents, including classified documents, to the residence" and "had a standing order that documents removed from the Oval Office and taken to the residence were deemed to be declassified the moment he removed them."

Former National Security Adviser John Bolton said that while he was there there was nothing of the
sort going on, and that the idea of a standing declassification order is "almost certainly a lie."

ACLU lawyer Matthew Segal noted last week that colleagues sent a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the National Geospatial-intelligence agency requesting any documents pertaining to an "alleged declassification standing order, any written transmittal of the alleged declassification stand order from the executive office of the president of the United States to NGA, including by letter, memoranda, or email, all records created by NGA that were declassified pursuant to the alleged declassification standing order" up until Jan. 20, 2021.

The same request was also sent to the Department
of Homeland Security.
Both came back with the same answer.

On Sept. 8, Segal cited the letter from the NGA saying "Our extensive search of National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency records failed to identify any documents in our files that are responsive to your request."

Monday, the Department of Homeland Security returned the information explaining,
"We conducted a comprehensive search of files within The Office of the Executive Secretary (ESEC) and the Office of the Chief Information Officer (OCIO) for records that would be responsive to your request.
Unfortunately, we were unable to locate or identify and responsive records."

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Trump Responds To Department Of Justice In Fiery Court Filing
Carmine Sabia,0September 12, 2022

Former President Donald Trump has struck back at the Department of Justice in a blistering 21 page court filing.

The filing came on Monday as the former president dismissed the FBI seizing documents from his Mar-a-Lago residence as a “misguided storage dispute,” The Daily Mail reported.

The former president’s attorneys praised US District Judge Aileen Cannon’s decision to pause the review of his documents as they await the appointment of a special master as a “sensible preliminary step towards restoring order from chaos.”

“In what at its core is a document storage dispute that has spiraled out of control, the Government wrongfully seeks to criminalize the possession by the 45th President of his own Presidential and personal records,” the filing said.

“What is clear regarding all of the seized materials is that they belong with either President Trump (as his personal property to be returned pursuant to Rule 41(g)) or with NARA, but not with the Department of Justice,” it said.

The government took issue with Cannon’s stay on reviewing the documents and the Trump team hit back.

“The Government’s stance assumes that if a document has a classification marking, it remains classified irrespective of any actions taken during President Trump’s term in office,” it said.

The ex-president’s lawyers have appeared hesitant to make that claim in court despite Trump insisting in multiple public interviews and statements that he had not taken classified documents because he had waived their secrecy as commander-in-chief.

However in their court filing, Trump’s lawyers directly contradict him by stating the Biden administration has ‘not proven these records remain classified,’ adding that it’s a topic ‘to be determined later.’

Despite ordering the FBI to temporarily halt its probe, Cannon did let allow a separate review of the documents by the intelligence community to move forward.

Federal prosecutors argued Thursday that allowing one without the other is unworkable, ‘given that the same senior DOJ and FBI officials are ultimately responsible for supervising the criminal investigation and for ensuring that DOJ and FBI are coordinating appropriately with the [Intelligence Community]’ on its own review.

The Department of Justice wants the former president to pay for the special master in the case, but Trump has said that they should split the cost, Mediaite reported.

“Plaintiff proposes to split evenly the professional fees and expenses of the Special Master and any professionals, support staff, and expert consultants engaged at the Master’s request,” it said in the filing.

“The Government’s position is that, as the party requesting the special master, Plaintiff should bear the additional expense of the Special Master’s work,” it said.

Both parties also submitted their candidates for special master.

Government’s Proposed Candidates

The Honorable Barbara S. Jones (ret.) – retired judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, partner in Bracewell LLP, and special master in In re: in the Matter of Search Warrants Executed on April 28, 2021 and In the Matter of Search Warrants Executed on April 9, 2018.

The Honorable Thomas B. Griffith (ret.) – retired Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, special counsel in Hunton Andrews Kurth LLP, and Lecturer on Law at Harvard Law School.


Plaintiff’s Proposed Candidates

The Honorable Raymond J. Dearie (ret.) – former Chief Judge of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York, served on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, formerly the United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York.

Paul Huck, Jr.—founder, The Huck Law Firm, former Jones Day partner, former General Counsel to the Governor, former Deputy Attorney General for the State of Florida.

The Department of Justice has decided to appeal the decision of the judge who appointed a special master to oversee the documents seized from former President Donald Trump’s private residence.

It also asked that asked Judge Aileen Cannon pause her order that blocked the Department of Justice from continuing to review the documents, NBC News reported.

The moves came three days after Cannon approved Trump’s request for a special master to sift through the seized materials to identify personal items and records that are protected by attorney-client privilege or executive privilege.

The DOJ had opposed that request, saying a team of agency officials had already completed a privilege review of the documents, and that a special master could harm the government’s national security interests.

In another court filing Thursday, the DOJ asked Cannon to make public a notice on the status of that team’s filter review process, which had been filed under seal on Aug. 30.
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Biden DOJ Accepts Trump-Recommended Judge for Special Master
Martin Walsh, September 13, 2022

The U.S. Department of Justice stated its open to accepting one of former President Donald Trump’s picks to serve as a “special master” to review the documents that the FBI seized from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago in early August.

In a court filing this week, prosecutors said they would approve of Raymond J. Dearie due to his “substantial judicial experience,” which includes presiding “over federal criminal and civil cases, including federal cases involving national security and privilege concerns.”

Dearie is a former Chief Judge of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York and served on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

For its part, the DOJ suggested that former federal judge Barbara S. Jones or former federal Judge Thomas B. Griffith should be appointed by the court to serve as the “special master.”

“The government understands that each of the three candidates with prior judicial experience also currently employs staff who could assist in timely performing the duties assigned to the special master,” the filing said. “In selecting among the three candidates, the government respectfully requests that the Court consider and select the candidate best positioned to timely perform the special master’s assigned responsibilities.”


The DOJ is also requesting that the court force Trump to pay for the special master in the case, but Trump has said that they should split the cost, Mediaite reported.

“Plaintiff proposes to split evenly the professional fees and expenses of the Special Master and any professionals, support staff, and expert consultants engaged at the Master’s request,” it said in the filing.

“The Government’s position is that, as the party requesting the special master, Plaintiff should bear the additional expense of the Special Master’s work,” it said.

The DOJ also recently appealed the decision of the judge who appointed a special master to oversee the documents seized from Trump’s private residence.

It also asked that asked Judge Aileen Cannon pause her order that blocked the Department of Justice from continuing to review the documents, NBC News reported.

The moves came three days after Cannon approved Trump’s request for a special master to sift through the seized materials to identify personal items and records that are protected by attorney-client privilege or executive privilege.

The DOJ had opposed that request, saying a team of agency officials had already completed a privilege review of the documents, and that a special master could harm the government’s national security interests.


In another court filing Thursday, the DOJ asked Cannon to make public a notice on the status of that team’s filter review process, which had been filed under seal on Aug. 30.

This week U.S. District Judge from the Southern District of Florida Judge Aileen M. Cannon on Monday ordered that a special master be appointed to review records seized last month by the FBI during a raid at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate.

She ordered that an independent third-party be appointed to “review the seized property, manage assertions of privilege and make recommendations thereon, and evaluate claims for return of property.”

“The Court hereby authorizes the appointment of a special master to review the seized property for personal items and documents and potentially privileged material subject to claims of attorney- client and/or executive privilege,” the order states.

“Furthermore, in natural conjunction with that appointment, and consistent with the value and sequence of special master procedures, the Court also temporarily enjoins the Government from reviewing and using the seized materials for investigative purposes pending completion of the special master’s review or further Court order,” it adds.

The order, though, “shall not impede the classification review and/or intelligence assessment by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (“ODNI”) as described in the Government’s Notice of Receipt of Preliminary Order.”
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9-13-2022

DOJ ‘decimates’ Trump’s argument in new filing, according to legal expert.

The United States Department of Justice criticized Donald Trump's legal arguments in a 12-page motion filed on Tuesday that mentions potential damage to national security in the first paragraph.

Prosecutors are seeking a stay on a Judge Aileen Cannon's ruling for a special master to allow the FBI to work with the rest of the intelligence community to investigate
"just over 100 records marked as classified."

The motion indicated the markings signify disclosures that "reasonably could be expected to result in damage to national security.

In a footnote on the first page, prosecutors sought to debunk one of Trump's defenses.

DOJ wrote Trump "has characterized the government’s criminal investigation as a 'document storage dispute' or an 'overdue library book scenario.' In doing so, [Trump] has not addressed the potential harms that could result from mishandling classified information or the strict requirements imposed by law for handling such materials," DOJ argued.

The filing also said Trump "offers no response to the government’s multiple arguments demonstrating that he cannot plausibly assert executive privilege to prevent the Executive Branch itself from reviewing records that Executive Branch officials previously marked as classified."

The filing also noted Trump "does not actually assert—much less provide any evidence—
that any of the seized records bearing classification markings have been declassified."

Former Pentagon special counsel Ryan Goodman said the brief "decimates Trump lawyers' brief" and said it "should be game over."

"Brilliant moves here by DOJ," he explained.
"First, they call Trump's bluff here -- that he has never asserted in court that he declassified/made records personal. Second, if he did declassify any, it would be hugely important for IC/FBI/DOJ to have those records to assess the impact."

Goodman continued, "Next pointed and irrefutable argument by DOJ:
If Trump wants to claim he made these records "personal," then his claim of executive privilege evaporates. Personal records = no executive privilege Trump's lawyers' and advisors (eg Tom Fitton) have dug themselves a hole here."

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Donald Trump is back at Mar-a-Lago and raging about FBI agents not taking off their shoes while searching his bedroom
Cheryl Teh | Business Insider
Mon, September 19, 2022 at 1:47 AM

Trump said on Truth Social that he's finally had a look around Mar-a-Lago.

He complained that his Florida residence would "never be the same" after the FBI search.

He said FBI agents did not take off their shoes in his bedroom.

On Sunday night, former President Donald Trump took to Truth Social to fume about the FBI's raid of Mar-a-Lago, accusing agents of not taking off their shoes when searching his bedroom.

Trump announced earlier on Sunday that he would "soon be heading" to Mar-a-Lago. He wrote that he wanted to see "the unnecessary ransacking of rooms and other areas of the house," adding that he felt "totally violated."

Several hours later, Trump said he had arrived at his Florida residence and "had a long and detailed chance" to look around the property. He claimed in his post that the FBI's lawful search of his property was a violation of his Fourth Amendment rights while lamenting that his home would "never be the same."

"It was 'ransacked,' and in far different condition than the way I left it," Trump wrote on Truth Social. "Many Agents - And they didn't even take off their shoes in my bedroom. Nice!!!"

This is not the first time Trump has expressed anger at the FBI agents who searched through his personal items. In August, Trump accused investigators of leaving former first lady Melania Trump's closet in a "mess" after the search. He also claimed the investigators searched his son Barron's room.

Earlier this month, Trump claimed the FBI made him look sloppy by purposely scattering documents on the ground to photograph them during Mar-a-Lago raid. This was after the Department of Justice shared a photo that showed classified documents strewn about on a carpet.

"They took them out of cartons and spread them around on the carpet, making it look like a big 'find' for them," he wrote on Truth Social. "They dropped them, not me — Very deceiving…" he added.

"Perhaps pretending it was me that did it!" Trump added in a separate post the same day.

During the Mar-a-Lago search, the FBI seized 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked "top secret" and some that may have concerned nuclear weapons. The DOJ is looking into whether Trump broke any of three federal laws — including the Espionage Act — by keeping the documents at his Florida residence.

Representatives for the DOJ and Trump's post-presidential press office did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.
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9-19-2022

Trump ignored warnings last year there could be serious ramifications if he didn't return docs.

For over 18 months the National Archives and the Justice Department tried to get back the documents that Donald Trump took from the White House upon leaving on Jan. 20.

Previous reports explained that his White House Counsel Pat Cipollone and his deputy Patrick Philbin were appointed to handle the transition of documents from the Trump administration to the incoming Joe Biden administration and ensure things got sent over to the National Archives to be cataloged.
The lawyers impressed on then-chief of staff Mark Meadows that Trump must hand over the documents.

Both Cipollone and Philbin have spoken to the FBI about the scandal.

Last month, an email was revealed from the National Archives to Trump's representatives in May 2021 about the missing information.

“It is also our understanding that roughly two dozen boxes of original presidential records were kept in the Residence of the White House over the course of President Trump’s last year in office and have not been transferred to NARA, despite a determination by Pat Cipollone in the final days of the administration that they need to be,” wrote Gary Stern, NARA's chief counsel.

Former White House lawyer Eric Herschmann, known for his colorful language during the House Select Committee hearings on Jan. 6, made it clear to
Trump and his allies that they simply must hand over the information or it would result in more unwanted investigations and legal battles.

"I certainly am not relying on any legal analysis from either of you or Boris who — to be clear — I think is an idiot,” former Trump White House lawyer Eric Herschmann said in an email to Trump’s personal lawyers Evan Corcoran and John Rowley about Trump’s advisor turned “in-house counsel” Boris Epshteyn.

Epshteyn became subject to a search warrant last week and the FBI took his cell phone in relation to another matter involving fake electors. That case is already before a grand jury, according to witnesses that have been called.

After Herschmann's comments, Trump handed over 15 boxes of documents to the NARA, but left out many others, including classified information.

Herschmann was no longer working for Trump.

"The meeting between Mr. Herschmann and Mr. Trump has not been previously reported, and it adds to the picture of Mr. Trump’s interactions with several people about returning the documents in the months before the National Archives retrieved 15 boxes of material in January of this year."
"When they went through the boxes, officials at the archives discovered that they contained nearly 200 individual classified documents."

Trump's lawyers will appear Tuesday in front of the appointed special master, Judge Raymond Dearie. They had hoped that Dearie's history with the FISA court in which he had two of his warrants overturned would have soured him on the entire FBI.
Paul Callan noted that he was shocked Trump's lawyers were willing to go along with Dearie.

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10-4-2022

Reporter reveals new detail that ‘puts Trump at the center’ of stolen docs case.

A detail from a new Washington Post report shows that Donald Trump was personally involved in returning only a portion of the government documents the National Archives had repeatedly asked him to return.

The former president asked one of his lawyers to tell the National Archives earlier this year that he had returned all the documents, which the attorney refused to do because he wasn't sure it was true,
__Trump personally packed the boxes himself__ -- suggesting that he was fully aware that additional materials remained at Mar-a-Lago.

"This is true, that Trump himself eventually packed all of the boxes after very reluctantly agreeing to do so," Alemany said. "Remember, the National Archives and Trump's lawyers were going back and forth on this as early as May. This issue, again, was flagged by lawyers in Trump's White House two weeks prior
to Trump even leaving the White House and going down to Mar-a-Lago."

"But, again, this does put the former president at the center of all of this that he himself was packing the boxes."
"He was very secretive about the process. We were also told despite having staffers who live in Palm Beach and work very closely with him on the premise, but again, [attorney] Alex Cannon had also recommended that staffers try to stay out of this
and he did ultimately arrange for one staffer to be there when the National Archives contractor eventually picked up the boxes in late January,
__but Trump is really the one who knew exactly what was in those boxes."


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10-5-2922

Trump suffers another defeat as 11th Circuit grants DOJ's request to fast-track appeal of special master order.

Late last month, the Department of Justice asked a federal appeals court to speed up its review an order appointing a special master to analyze documents seized by the FBI from former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.

On Monday, Trump's legal team asked the federal appeals court in Atlanta to deny DOJ's efforts to expedite the case, "arguing Trump’s team is already crunched for time dealing with the special master review and district court action.

That includes going over the 11,000 documents, totaling about 200,000 pages, to determine if they’re protected by attorney-client or executive privilege and litigating any fights over those claims, they said," according to Bloomberg.

“President Trump disagrees with and objects to the government’s distorted and argumentative presentation of facts concerning the unprecedented raid of his home, its conduct in these proceedings, and the procedural history of this case,” according
to the filing.

But as Bloomberg's Zoe Tillman points out, the court granted the DOJ's request, putting its full appeal of the special master order on an "expedited track."

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Court Screwup Reveals Mar-a-Lago Judge’s Latest Legal Absurdity in Trump Case
Jose Pagliery | The Daily Beast
Thu, October 6, 2022 at 2:47 AM

First, she stopped FBI special agents from even glancing at the classified documents they recovered from Mar-a-Lago. Then she appointed a special court referee that former President Donald Trump wanted to slow down the investigation over his mishandling of classified documents.

But now, it’s clear District Court Judge Aileen Cannon already knew the Department of Justice was ready to hand Trump back a ton of personal records six days before she claimed the former president was suffering “a real harm” by being “deprived of potentially significant personal documents.”

The “medical records” she worried the feds might leak to the press—what she called a “risk of irreparable injury” to the former president—were actually a doctor’s note Trump himself made public when running for the White House in 2016 as part of a publicity stunt.

A description in court records indicates the feds were trying to return an addendum to the infamous, eye-rolling letter that a Manhattan doctor quickly typed up emphatically declaring, “If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.”

Those details were made public when the court screwed up Tuesday night and posted a sealed DOJ filing on the public docket, which was quickly caught by Bloomberg reporter Zoe Tillmann.

The Aug. 30 letter to the judge, which is marked “sealed,” lays out the abundantly cautious way the DOJ treated its raid on Mar-a-Lago earlier that month. The FBI had a “privilege review team” of agents and lawyers conduct an initial sweep and sort through evidence to put aside anything that could taint an eventual prosecution of the former president—such as confidential letters between him and any of his 35 different lawyers.

In the letter, a DOJ lawyer representing that “taint team” explained that three weeks after the seizure of goods at the oceanside Florida estate, the team was ready to return 43 items that had nothing to do with the investigation: legal documents ranging from his confidential settlement with the Professional Golfers’ Association to invoices from his attorney Alina Habba.

The revelation makes even more obvious how far Cannon went to appease the president who gave her a lifetime appointment to the federal bench. And it’s only adding to what’s become a resounding consensus from legal scholars that Cannon is squarely on Trump’s side.

Trump lawyers, who’ve gone judge-shopping for her in the past, seemed to do it again when they filed this lawsuit to freeze the FBI investigation. Avoiding the South Florida magistrate judge who initially approved the search warrant and was already overseeing the matter, Trump’s lawyers marked the case as unrelated to other pending litigation—diverting this over to another judge and ending up with Cannon.

At the very first court hearing, Cannon signaled deep distrust of the DOJ and journalists. She expressed a belief that the FBI’s investigation of Trump for mishandling “top secret” records was somehow distinct from the federal government’s damage assessment over whether the nation’s secrets were put at risk. Legal analysts Teri Kanefield, Harry Litman, and others agonized over Cannon’s bizarre legal reasoning.

At every turn since, she has granted Trump’s lawyers exactly what their client wants most: time to burn.

“She's just giving him the delay that he’s asked for,” said Peter M. Shane, a legal scholar at New York University’s law school. “She has obvious sympathy for Trump’s contention that, as a former president, he deserves super-consideration.”

Trump’s lawyers wanted to hit the brakes on the FBI investigation. Cannon forbade the agents from reviewing the classified documents.

They wanted to appoint a “special master” to micromanage the DOJ and review whether any seized document could be considered a privileged presidential record or attorney-client communication. Cannon didn’t just appoint one—she picked the semi-retired judge they wanted.

Then, when Raymond Dearie turned out to be a no-nonsense arbiter who wanted to speed this process along—dangerously cornering Trump’s lawyers by telling them to formally explain whether Trump actually declassified these records—Cannon came swooping in out of nowhere to dial him back.

“This is how a judge would behave… if her motivation was simply to be helpful to Trump,” Shane told The Daily Beast.

The DOJ has already been moderately successful at appealing her decisions. The Eleventh Circuit, despite its conservative leaning, restored the FBI’s ability to keep reviewing the classified government records taken from Mar-a-Lago. And on Wednesday, the federal appellate court in Atlanta granted the DOJ’s pleas and agreed to expedite the appeal that could scrap the entire “special master” ordeal.

But while the case makes its way through that process, legal scholars worry Cannon will continue to micromanage her chosen micromanager.

“She seems to be cooperating quite well with the former president,” said Carl Tobias, a law school professor at the University of Richmond.

Dearie was once the top federal prosecutor in Brooklyn and went on to become a federal judge, including a seven-year stint on the coveted and hyper-secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which is where the feds ask for judicial approval to conduct some kinds of spying on foreigners. His role in this case could keep it moving forward fairly, although some legal scholars are starting to worry whether he’ll stick around.

“This is a person who spent 38 years building his enormous reputation. If I were a judge for 38 years… I wouldn’t want to be ordered around by someone who’s a lackey to Trump,” Tobias said.

But her potential to harm the FBI’s investigation is far from over. Dearie’s role is merely to be a temporary referee to shepherd the potentially privileged document review process. His decision’s aren’t even final. Any conclusion he makes will still be submitted for approval to Cannon, who’s 37 years his junior and was a newborn in Colombia when he was already leading the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Eastern District of New York while the crime rate was soaring.

Tobias stressed that every day the case remains with Cannon is a step in the wrong direction, noting that she should have done the right thing: recognized that this case was already an extension of the Mar-a-Lago search and transferred it back to Bruce Reinhart, the magistrate judge who approved the search warrant.

“I just don’t think she ever had jurisdiction,” Tobias said. “She could have kicked this back to the magistrate. To the extent this case had any validity, it belonged there—rather than have this. They forum-shopped to get her. It raises all kinds of issues.
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Former Clinton Advisor Says FBI Searched Trump’s Home To Protect Themselves
Carmine Sabia, September 12, 2022

Dick Morris, a former advisor to former President Bill Clinton, believes that the search of former President Donald Trump’s home is not about Trump evading the FBI but the FBI evading him.

“We need to go from defense to offense on this,” he said to Newsmax. “I think that one of the big reasons — if not the major reason — that the FBI seized those documents is that they incriminate not Trump, but the FBI in the Russia collusion scandal, in the scandal of spying on Trump’s campaign, and in the scandal of fabricating evidence to the FISA court to lead to wiretaps on key Trump officials.”

Morris has also been an advisor to former President Trump said he did not believe he would have taken documents with him to Mar-a-Lago to

“Why would Donald Trump take documents with him to Mar-a-Lago that could impact could be bad for him and not declassify them so that they were innocuous,” he said to host Rita Cosby. “Why would he do that? He wasn’t writing a book or anything like that.

“I think the only reason that he took them with him — well, the major reason — was for him to review them to find evidence implicating the FBI.

“That’s why they raided Mar-a-Lago to get a hold of that stuff before Trump did. And I think that what we’re looking here is not about Donald Trump evading the FBI, but the FBI evading Donald Trump,” he said.

Morris believes that the FBI wanted the documents because they may show an abuse of power by the FBI.

“He doesn’t look like he was getting them to review them for his memoirs or anything — he’s not writing them — but in order to go through the evidence himself and see what it implicated the FBI and its conduct against him,” he said.

He also believes that the search of his home will not end with the former president being indicted.

“It sets up, in effect, what they call a Chinese wall between the evidence being between the evaluation of evidence for intelligence purposes and evaluation for the purposes of criminal prosecution,” the former Clinton advisor said. “That means they can’t use one in the case of the other. So, effectively, until the special master reviews the documents, they can’t use any documents for criminal investigation.

“And I think that eventually they will not have the basis for an indictment of Trump. I used to think he might be indicted, but I’ve now come to the view after Judge [Aileen] Cannon’s order, that he will not be,” he said.

An attorney for former President Donald Trump said that she is disturbed by the leaks coming from the Department of Justice regarding the raid on Mar-a-Lago.

“This is incredibly disturbing to me in terns of leaks coming from the Justice Department,” Alina Habba said Wednesday on the Newsmax show “Wake Up America,” Newsmax reported.

She said that it is another example of the Department of Justice and FBI being politicized.

In the most recent leak, an unnamed source told The Washington Post that information on the nuclear capabilities of another nation were found in the documents at Mar-a-Lago.

The attorney said “when you have to defend yourself [as the DOJ is currently doing], stories come out. … And I think that’s exactly what they are, just stories.”

She said that the media’s telling of the story is “inconsistent, outrageous, and all over the map.”

She said that the Department of Justice will appeal the decision to appoint a special master, which it did, but that “what people need to remember is that this ruling is an injunction, so at this moment everything has stopped in terms of any investigation they might be having, which is a very big win for the Trump team.”

The Department of Justice has decided to appeal the decision of the judge who appointed a special master to oversee the documents seized from former President Donald Trump’s private residence.

It also asked that asked Judge Aileen Cannon pause her order that blocked the Department of Justice from continuing to review the documents, NBC News reported.

The moves came three days after Cannon approved Trump’s request for a special master to sift through the seized materials to identify personal items and records that are protected by attorney-client privilege or executive privilege.

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Top Trump adviser granted immunity for testifying in Mar-a-Lago papers case
Hugo Lowell | The Guardian
Wed, November 2, 2022 at 5:56 PM

Federal prosecutors examining Donald Trump’s unauthorized retention of highly sensitive government documents at his Mar-a-Lago property will obtain testimony from top adviser Kash Patel after granting him limited immunity from prosecution, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

The immunity – a powerful tool that forces witnesses to testify on the promise that they will not be prosecuted for their statements or information derived from their statements – takes effect on 2 November and signals the importance of his testimony to the criminal investigation.

The justice department’s interest with Patel centers on his claims that the documents found at Mar-a-Lago were declassified, how the documents came to end up at the property, and how Trump’s aides and lawyers responded to requests for their return, the sources said.

The status of the documents is important because if prosecutors can prove that those seized by the FBI in August were not declassified, it could strengthen a potential Espionage Act case contending that the former president flouted state secrecy laws.

Trump and advisers like Patel have claimed repeatedly since the Mar-a-Lago search that the seized documents were declassified, though no such evidence has emerged and Trump’s lawyers have not repeated the assertions in court filings, where they could face penalties for lying.

But the justice department’s focus on the declassification suggests federal prosecutors consider it relevant to the inquiry into Trump’s retention of documents at the Florida property, as well as whether Patel himself wanted to impede or obstruct the investigation if his claims were false.

As Patel is a close adviser to Trump – he maintains a personal relationship with the former president – who was also appointed as one of his representatives to the National Archives, the justice department is expected to ask Patel about the circumstances behind the documents at Mar-a-Lago.

The Guardian first reported that the justice department was considering granting Patel use immunity on Wednesday morning. The immunity order, confirmed by the Wall Street Journal, was transmitted to Patel’s lawyers hours later.

The push to secure Patel’s testimony intensified after he was summoned earlier this month to testify before a federal grand jury in Washington hearing evidence about Trump’s mishandling of government documents and potential obstruction when he resisted returning certain records.

Patel asserted his fifth amendment right against self-incrimination to an array of questions, the sources said, though the basis for some was not clear; even if the documents were not declassified, making false public statements would likely not be a crime.

In the obstruction investigation examining Trump by the former special counsel Robert Mueller, for instance, prosecutors concluded that the former president’s false statements about his campaign’s ties to Russia could only be considered criminal if he made them to Congress or the FBI.

But after chief US district court judge Beryl Howell in Washington agreed that Patel could justifiably believe he had reason to assert the fifth, the justice department applied for an order giving him limited immunity from prosecution that was granted late last week, the sources said.

Trump has only doubled down in recent weeks on the claim that all of the documents in his possession were declassified, while his office has said Trump issued a standing order that records taken to the White House residence were automatically declassified.

Trump also claimed to Fox News host Sean Hannity, when asked what procedures he used to declassify the documents, that presidents had the authority to declassify documents by the power of thought.

“Different people say different things but as I understand it, if you’re the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it’s declassified, even by thinking about it,” Trump told Hannity.

But the justice department’s willingness to grant use immunity to Patel underscores how important they consider his testimony as prosecutors continue to collect evidence against Trump through his current and former aides.

Prosecutors only grant immunity to witnesses as a last resort, especially in high-profile cases, since it makes potentially prosecuting them in the future much more difficult, and the move requires internal approval at the highest levels of the justice department.

The justice department has also pressured Trump’s valet Walt Nauta to sit for an additional interview to answer questions about how Trump instructed him to remove boxes from a storage room at Mar-a-Lago where documents marked classified were stashed, one of the sources said.

Nauta has resisted having another interview with prosecutors – on the advice of his lawyer, who also represents Patel – after they indicated they were skeptical of an initial account he gave about moving documents from the storage room and raised the prospect of charging him with obstruction.
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Agents Admit Trump Wasn’t Cutting Business Deals with Nuke Codes in Pocket
Jon Dougherty, November 17, 2022

The Washington Post has published a piece post-midterm elections that once again clears former President Donald Trump’s name and reputation.

Reports for months prior to Election Day claimed that Trump might have been conducting nefarious business activities with classified documents he reportedly took with him after he left the White House in January 2021 and which formed the basis for the FBI’s unprecedented raid on his Mar-a-Lago home in early August.

On Monday, the Post reported that federal investigators “believe former president Donald Trump’s motive for allegedly taking and keeping classified documents was largely his ego and a desire to hold on to the materials as trophies or mementos.”

“As part of the investigation, federal authorities reviewed the classified documents that were recovered from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home and private club, looking to see if the types of information contained in them pointed to any kind of pattern or similarities, according to these people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation,” the Post continued.

“That review has not found any apparent business advantage to the types of classified information in Trump’s possession, these people said. FBI interviews with witnesses so far, they said, also do not point to any nefarious effort by Trump to leverage, sell or use the government secrets,” the report noted further.

“Instead, the former president seemed motivated by a more basic desire not to give up what he believed was his property, these people said,” according to the outlet.

Exclusive: Federal agents believe former president Donald Trump’s motive for allegedly keeping classified documents was largely his ego and a desire to hold on to the materials as trophies or mementos, according to people familiar with the matter. https://t.co/HQNtRMChJ3

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) November 14, 2022

Sources who spoke to the Post, however, “cautioned that the investigation is ongoing, that no final determinations have been made, and that it is possible additional information could emerge that changes investigators’ understanding of Trump’s motivations.”

“But they said the evidence collected over a period of months indicates the primary explanation for potentially criminal conduct was Trump’s ego and intransigence,” the report added.

Last month, presidential son Eric Trump revealed that FBI agents who raided his father’s estate searched his safe — but it was empty.

The 45th president’s son said that the safe was “empty” and that over two dozen FBI agents were involved in the raid. He also said the raid was to find documents that should have gone to the National Archives.

“Nothing was in the safe,” Trump said.

Earlier, an FBI supervisory special agent has filed a revised document in federal court altering the number of documents that the bureau seized from former President Donald Trump during an unprecedented raid on his home in Palm Beach, Fla., in August.

“The additional review and recount resulted in some minor revisions to the Detailed Property Inventory,” noted the agent, whose name was redacted. “I and FBI personnel working under my direction conducted an additional review and recount of the Seized materials in order to make this declaration.”

According to The Epoch Times, the supervisory agent’s filing acknowledged that the bureau actually obtained 63 more documents or photos than previously revealed:

The revised inventory was submitted to the federal court in southern Florida on orders from U.S. District Judge Raymond Dearie, a Reagan appointee who was inserted into the case as a special master, or an independent third party to handle disputes and other matters.

Dearie ordered a government official “with sufficient knowledge of the matter” to submit a declaration or affidavit stating whether the detailed property inventory released on Sept. 2 “represents the full and accurate extent of the property seized from” Trump’s home in August when FBI agents executed a search warrant there.

The supervisory agent noted in the filing that he or she leads a squad of FBI agents and intelligence analysts conducting investigations into the potential mishandling of classified or national security information.

Previously, the FBI claimed that agents removed 33 boxes of information and documents from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate.

The filing came after U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, who was appointed by the former president, struck down a ruling by Special Master Raymond Dearing, which said that Trump must provide any “final” objections or arguments regarding the seized documents from the unprecedented raid.

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